jkh@jade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard) (10/10/86)
Article: 10:21 Path: gatech!andrew From: andrew@gatech.EDU (Andrew Ditchfield) Subject: Explorer II Message-ID: <4605@gatech.EDU> Date: 3 Oct 86 16:54:28 GMT Lines: 5 Keywords: Exploe Explorer Charter Arms I would like to buy an Exz Explorer II .22 by Charter Arms. Does anyone have any opinions about this gun ?
jkh@jade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard) (10/30/86)
Responding-System: shark.TEK.COM Article: 10:50 Path: shark!alang From: alang@shark.TEK.COM (Alan Geist) Subject: Re: Who would steal a bolt? Message-ID: <1975@shark.TEK.COM> Date: 27 Oct 86 21:38:35 GMT References: <1463@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: alang@shark.UUCP (Alan Geist) Lines: 33 In article <1463@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> jkh@jade.UUCP writes: >Article: 10:33 > >The point that I wanted to make is that someone could >break into your car and take your gun parts or steal your >car. Then what do you do with your guns? > >Also, cars do not provide a very hospitable >climate for steel parts, especially in the winter. >(This doesn't apply if you live in the Mojave >Desert.) > >Jon Kaplowitz >ihnp4!erc3ba!jfka Another reason not to do this with bolts or some other action related parts is that a removed bolt, without exception (that I've ever seen), has the hammer back, and thus the spring is compressed. After long term storage in this manner, the spring can so weaken as to partially or completely prevent firing of the weapon. I have seen this happen on a number of occasions. For this reason, actions, in or out of the gun, should always be stored with the hammer forward, and the spring relaxed. You wouldn't believe the embarrasment associated with raising a gun at a bird or game and only hearing a slight click. It could be much more than embarrassing if the gun were needed for self defense. Alan Geist tektronix!shark!alang The Doctor: "I'm dangerous when I don't know what I'm doing!"
jkh@jade.UUCP (12/11/86)
>In Oregon, defending my domicile and life from a protected position >from an intruder should be imminently justifiable. This is based on >lectures from District Attorneys here. I would much prefer to kill >the intruder than merely to injure them. With the jail space problem >we have, he could be out and back in no time. I have a friend on one of the local police forces around here that has dealt with home self-defense situations before. He had a policy that was very similar to this for different reasons. "Dead men don't tell lies." -- Jeff Lee CSNet: Jeff @ GATech ARPA: Jeff%GATech.CSNet @ CSNet-Relay.ARPA uucp: ...!{akgua,allegra,hplabs,ihnp4,linus,seismo,ulysses}!gatech!jeff
jkh@jade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard) (01/07/87)
Article: 1:7
I am looking to buy a 9mm pistol. Right now I am considering the
Browning and the S & W models. I would like some input from the
readers on the advantages and disadvantages of both, as well as
any other recommendations on 9mm pistols.
Thanks,
J. Keith Brown
(kbrown)jkh@jade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard) (01/22/87)
Article: 1:40 When I was shooting competitively in the service our coaches would not allow us to clean the barrels at all before or during a match. After a match we cleaned the moving parts (match grade M1s) and lightly oiled them. We ran a patch thru the bore coated with nitro solvent then a dry patch and that was it. Their theory was that the less wear on the barrel the better. I know that I shot the same gun for two years, put about 5000 rounds thru it and at the end of that two years it was as accurate as the day I got it. The scores posted by that gun were a function of the shooters ability not the gun. I have continued to practice this cleaning method with my personal weapons. -- Mark O'Shea marko@tekecs.GWD.TEK Tektronix, Inc. Willieville, Orygun
jkh@jade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard) (01/22/87)
Article: 1:42 I am interested in buying a good quality BB/pellet gun for backyard plinking (I live in the city limits, so it's illegal for me to fire my .30-06 or 12 gauge, for some reason :-) ). I looked over some of the "pump" guns in a local sporting goods store, but they all have a lot of plastic, artificially large barrels to make them look like firearms, etc. I also noticed that the top of the line Daisy (at least the most expensive one at this store) wasn't even a pump. My impression has been that the pump guns develop more power than the others. Is this true? Other things I am interested in are accuracy, adjustability of the sights, and overall quality. Price is definately a factor, but less of one than the other aspects. One other thing I noticed was that most of them have stocks made to fit an eight year old. Can anyone steer me in the right direction. Alan Geist tektronix!shark!alang The Doctor: "I'm dangerous when I don't know what I'm doing!"
jkh@jade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard) (01/22/87)
Article: 1:46 I'm trying to reconstruct this from memory, so my apologies if I haven't got all the details correct.... I was at a gun collectors show last weekend when I noticed a .308 semi-automatic stainless steel pistol made by a company called "AMT" located in California (Cupertino? Or was that just my imagination?) I'd like to know a little bit more about the company AND the pistol. Has anyone out there fired one of these (or own one?) I'd be curious to know what you think about it (and why...) Thanks in advance.
jkh@jade.UUCP (01/31/87)
>Beretta 92F 4.9" 15 $685 Italy Compact due out
Update on Beretta compact:
Beretta 92FC: Barrel length 109mm, 13 shot clip. All other specs
except dimensions (length, width), line of sight, and weight are
identical to the military 92F.
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"Let's see who's up the creek without an overthruster NOW, Space Cadet!"jkh@jade.UUCP (01/31/87)
>> I would add just one thing. If you are >>interested in accuracy, wipe out the barrel with a dry cloth *before* you >>use the gun. Otherwise your first few shots will be wild. >With my GX-1, I've found that running a patch through the barrel prior to >shooting (or shooting a fouling shot or two) is unnecessary. The rifle >will print one hole right out of the case. My suggestion was in response to a procedure which ended with oiling the barrel. If you leave oil in the barrel it does two things. Your chamber and back-pressures will vary until the oil is all forced/burned out (two or three shots), and since the oil has collected on the lower side of the inside of the barrel the bullet will exit with a wobble. I have a .22 which will literally drive nails (I have done it and it is also fun to split bullets on the edge of an axe.) and I have seen this effect time and again. I never minded shooting a couple of extra shots to get me and the gun warmed up, but then I am not a "serious" shooter. I do it for fun. --Brian
jkh@jade.UUCP (01/31/87)
I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk and wonder what it is worth. It was made in 1976 and has the inscription: "Made in the 200th year of American Liberty" roll stamped on the barrel. I have probably shot less than 200 rounds through it. I can account for almost every shot. (I saved almost all spent shells and reloaded about 50 of them once.) So the gun is almost new. I am just curious what these are going for since I haven't priced any gun in almost ten years. I also wonder what I must do to protect myself legally in case I sell it to someone who commits a crime with it. It is not registered (not necessary in Oregon :-), but I did fill out the paperwork mandated by the 1968 gun law when I bought it, so I presume it is traceable to me. I would appreciate any estimates and realize that you can't inspect it over the net. (If anyone in Oregon wants to buy it, I also have some reloading gear and a very nice holster/belt for it.) Thanks. --Brian M. Godfrey Sequent Computer Systems !tektronix!sequent!brian
jkh@jade.UUCP (01/31/87)
> I'm trying to reconstruct this from memory, so my apologies if I > haven't got all the details correct.... > > I was at a gun collectors show last weekend when I noticed a > .308 semi-automatic stainless steel pistol made by a company called > "AMT" located in California (Cupertino? Or was that just my > imagination?) > I think you mean the AMT Backup .380. AMT is located in Southern California near Arcadia or Monrovia. (AMT orginally stood for Arcadia Machine & Tool). > I'd like to know a little bit more about the company AND the pistol. > Has anyone out there fired one of these (or own one?) I'd be curious > to know what you think about it (and why...) I had the .22LR version for a while. Very accurate (for a 2.5" barrel), very compact, so easy to conceal, even under a T-shirt, a real bitch to clean, and built to tighter tolerances than I like in a combat gun (which may be why it's so accurate). The magazine holds eight rounds, and both calibers have a grip safety as well as a thumb safety, which is the principal reason I bought it. A friend had the .380 ACP version (5 round magazine). The recoil was so severe that he finally sold it. Everytime I saw him fire it at the range, the recoil was so bad the front of the triggerguard would draw blood from his trigger finger. If you really need something that compact, consider the Colt .380 Mustang, which is just a bit bigger. Clayton E. Cramer
jkh@jade.UUCP (01/31/87)
>I was at a gun collectors show last weekend when I noticed a >.308 semi-automatic stainless steel pistol made by a company called >"AMT" located in California (Cupertino? Or was that just my >imagination?) > >I'd like to know a little bit more about the company AND the pistol. >Has anyone out there fired one of these (or own one?) I'd be curious >to know what you think about it (and why...) I have the AMT .380 BACKUP. It's made out of a very poor stainless steel. It rust fairly easily and the slide has worn quite noticeably. Ejected casings are shot straight back into the shooters forehead, if they make it out of the gun at all. Round nose bullets are the only type that feed with any reliability. With the fixed sights and the very short barrel it's not very accurate. It's also slightly painful to shoot due to so much power in such a small gun. The fact that the hammer is not exposed makes the gun worthless for self protection and very unsafe. If there is a round in the chamber the hammer will be cocked. So it should be carried with no round in the chamber which means if it were needed for protection you would pull it then slide the hammer back to load it the get ready to fire, which is to much to do in a pressure situation. And I hate to think someone would carry this gun loaded. Either get a revolver (recommended) or a better quality auto.
jkh@jade.UUCP (02/04/87)
For good quality air rifles at a reasonable price, try Cabela's 812 - 13th Ave Sidney, Neb 69160 1986 Spring Catalog pg 179 shows some RWS air rifles in the $150 range. These rifles have adjustable triggers and boast muzzle velocities of >900 fps. I can speak for their accuracy and can guarantee once you have fired one of these you will NEVER go back to Daisy. [All are .177 cal.]
jkh@jade.UUCP (02/04/87)
In-Reply-To: <2376@jade.BERKELEY.EDU>
If you want to sell it, let me know how much you want for it.
I have an old Blackhawk (serial number 000049) and I really like the way
they handle.
Rick.
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/* path={hplabs,ihnp4}!amdahl!wre */jkh@jade.UUCP (02/12/87)
If you want more info on pellet guns, call Beeman's in San Rafael. Also, I have a real nice Beeman 850 pellet gun I want to sell...If you're interested please let me know. My phone: 408-721-8139 or 408-946-5656. --scott
jkh@jade.UUCP (02/24/87)
Looking for 20 ga. dies for a Lyman Easy Loader Shotshell Press . This reloading press has been discontinued for a number of years so the parts are not available from the company . I lost one of the dies in a move ,part of the final crimp stage and need a replacement . If you have these dies and want to sell them let me know what you want for them . Reply to : paul bourgeois !tektronix!sequent!paul
jkh@jade.UUCP (02/24/87)
I looking to obtain replicas of several English revolvers from c.1880.
The specific guns were made by Adams, Webley, and Tranter. The only
company I know of that makes Replica Revolvers is Collector's Armoury,
Inc. in VA. They don't have any of these models. Does anyone know of
any other companies that might make replicas of these guns?
thanks,
ds
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arpa: Steiner@TOPAZ.RUTGERS.EDU or Steiner@RUTGERS.ARPA jkh@jade.UUCP (02/24/87)
2-16-87 Indiana for the first time had a "handgun" season for Deer (1986). Not being a shotgun enthusiast, I eagerly gathered up my old smelly hunting coat, several hundred rounds of ammo, and headed for the south forty. However, as I soon discovered, I have become more mature (and better). Either the sights or the target had a tendency to blur (depending on whether I was looking through my bi-focals or not). To resolve the problem, I would like to mount a scope on my stainless Redhawk 44 mag. In looking over the field I have decided on using either a Buehler single piece mount or have Ruger install a pair of their removable rings on the barrel rib. The Buehler mounts are by the far cheapest but require that the adjustable rear sight be removed. I like the idea of being able to retain the original sights and the removability of the Ruger system. However Ruger wants $148.50 plus shipping, they have to replace the barrel. 1. Has anyone had experience with the Ruger system? 2. Does the clamping action of the mount have a tendency to loosen with use? 3. Can the scope be removed and replaced and still retain it's zero? 4. Any recommendations as to brand - model of scope? Also I am thinking of purchasing a Dillon "Square Deal" press for $135 with dies for both 357 and 44. 1. Has anyone had personal experience with this tool? I noticed the same question was asked several months ago but I apparently missed the answer. 2. Is the Crimping action separate from the bullet seating function? It looks like it might be at station #4 in a separate die. Their picture and literature is unclear. I would appreciate your comments and/or recommendations on these subjects. Thanks, R. W. Finck (The Sour Kraut)
jkh@jade.UUCP (03/30/87)
.In-Reply-To: <2597@jade.BERKELEY.EDU. - Frank Warren . .I disagree with the advice to use such small shot. Even at close ranges .#8 would most likely produce mayhem but not lethal force. #4 buck is as .large as I would go but I would think very hard before using anything .smaller than BB. A 12 gauge generally has muzzle energy comparable to .a 30-06 but you can spread it too fine. Very small shot dissipates all .of its energy in barely 2-3 inches of penetration -- fine for birds, and .less than half of what is needed, according to study, for a stopping-grade .hit. It is definitely not enough for someone high enough on drugs or .adrenalin or psychosis to attack a man holding a shotgun. The truth .probably lies somewhere between #4 buck and BBs. Frank, Would you believe that a 20ga skeet load of #9s at 15 feet will penetrate 3 pieces of 1/2" sheet rock. Leaving a hole about 3" thru the three pieces and putting a bulge in a fourth piece. That was, by the way, out of a skeet choked barrel. I did it last year as an experiment with some old sheet rock I was going to get rid of. The pieces were 2-1/2" apart. About the same as a house wall. You can draw whatever conclusions you wish from this. -- Mark O'Shea marko@tekecs.GWD.TEK Tektronix, Inc. Willieville, Orygun