john@moncol.UUCP (John Ruschmeyer) (07/12/85)
]From: evan@petfe.UUCP (Evan Marcus) ]Message-ID: <377@petfe.UUCP> ]Organization: Perkin-Elmer DSG, Tinton Falls, N.J. ] ]Wait till Pepsi's new commercials come out! (and what will Bill Cosby drink?) ]--Evan Marcus I wondered about that too. Coca Cola Classic is going to be an interesting product to market. I assume they will have to appeal more to the "baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and Chevrolet" part of the market. As experts have stated, it was these people who caused much of the commotion since they felt that part of America was being taken away. Coca Cola (the stuff that's been around since 4/23) will probably go on trying to appeal the the young, active culture (Pepsi's "new generation"). I wonder who Coke will use as a spokesman for Coca Cola Classic. The only commercial I have seen so far showed the president of the company. Could Bill Cosby do it? I'm not sure that he now has enough credibility with Coke drinkers to make statements about Coca Cola Classic. After all, one of his present commercials has him saying how he liked the taste of old Coke, but thinks that the new taste is the greatest taste "in the history of... ever!" (By the way, this might make an interesting topic for a net.flame discussion- does Bill Cosby really believe in the products he advertises or will he say anything for a company that pays him enough?) -- Name: John Ruschmeyer US Mail: Monmouth College, W. Long Branch, NJ 07764 Phone: (201) 222-6600 x366 UUCP: ...!vax135!petsd!moncol!john ...!princeton!moncol!john ...!pesnta!moncol!john Ingredients: Carbonated water, sugar, caramel color, phosphoric acid, natural flavorings, caffeine
terryl@tekcrl.UUCP (07/13/85)
>...... >...... >...... >...... >I wonder who Coke will use as a spokesman for Coca Cola Classic. The only >commercial I have seen so far showed the president of the company. Could >Bill Cosby do it? I'm not sure that he now has enough credibility with Coke >drinkers to make statements about Coca Cola Classic. After all, one of his >present commercials has him saying how he liked the taste of old Coke, but >thinks that the new taste is the greatest taste "in the history of... ever!" >(By the way, this might make an interesting topic for a net.flame >discussion- does Bill Cosby really believe in the products he advertises or >will he say anything for a company that pays him enough?) I've always wondered about that myself. I thought he wasn't sincere enough in the new commercials proclaiming "...the new taste is the greatest.."
root@bu-cs.UUCP (Barry Shein) (07/14/85)
Oh, just a little something I heard on a CNN interview that I thought was a good point (from some marketing type, not affiliated with Coke): Many, many of the people who drink Coke (and other colas) are habituated, at least mildly and as such are sensitive to the taste and other aspects of the formula. Most habituating substances have one thing in common: they don't taste very good to casual users (eg. tobacco, scotch etc etc) The mistake Coke (and others) makes in these random taste tests is just that, using random people who may often be trying their particular product for the first time. Could you imagine grabbing random people off the street and asking them to puff a cigarette? I think you might end up with a very sweet cigarette. The relationship between how good something tastes the first time and the likelihood that the user will become habituated (ok, if that bothers you replace 'loyal') may very well be inversely correlated! (a lot of this is paraphrased and salt and peppered w/ my own thoughts so sorry if you saw the show and are a little confused, but I think I captured the point.) Anyhow, food for thought -Barry Shein, Boston University
miller@rochester.UUCP (Brad Miller) (07/14/85)
A lot of people seem to think coke had the reintroduction of their old formula 'up their sleeve' all along. The problem with this statement is that there are substatial costs incurred when changing the formula of a product, especially when it must contain a new designation (e.g. 'new'). These costs approach that of introducing a totally new product. The only advantage to giving it the older name is, of course, name recognition. However, to suppose that Coke would really risk alienating all of it's current customers if they really believed that there would be such an outcry at replacing the coke formula seems foolish. All of the pre-release market studies I saw indicated that coke felt that current customers would not reject the new flavor, but they would gain market share among pepsi drinkers. (Taste test statics ran roughly 35% of coke drinkers preferred the new coke, while 75% would drink it, 50% of pepsi drinkers preferred the new coke over pepsi.) So, one may ask, why did the stock go up on the news Coke would reintoduce their old flavor? SHELF SPACE!! Colas are sold based on the amount of shelf space they have at the retailer. By introducing a new product, Coke implicitly forces the retailer to make a decision on what other products they will have to reduce shelf space for in order to carry the original coke. Given that the new coke is performing adequately in most areas (there are some large exceptions) the dealer is unlikely to decrease shelf space for the old coke, so shelf space for other products, like the off brands and (they hope) pepsi products will decrease. Bottom line, more total sales, albeit less for any one part of their product line. (WSJ had an article about shelf space and its effect on third brands after the introduction of all the caffine free products by both Coke and Pepsi). Brad Miller
faigin@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Daniel Faigin) (07/15/85)
In article <377@petfe.UUCP> evan@petfe.UUCP (Evan Marcus) writes: > >Now, as the President of Pepsi said, there are 2 Cokes on the market, 1 that >we consistently beat in taste tests, and the other that nobody likes. >Actually, I count about a dozen products from that company: >Old Coke (and presumably caffeine-free, too) > ... Now comes the fun part, e.g., listing the products made by Coca Cola Corporation: Colas: Classic Coke [hmmm, will there be a Caffine Free Classic Coke?] [new] Coke, [new] Caffine Free Coke diet Coke Caffine Free diet Coke Tab Caffine Free Tab Lemon-Limes: Sprite diet Sprite Fresca Oranges/Other Fruits: Sunkist Orange diet Sunkist Fanta (other flavors, ... I recall a pinapple) Root Beer: Fanta Root Beer Dr. Pepper Types: Mr. Pibb Can anyone add any others?? Daniel -- UUCP: {akgua allegra ihnp4 hplabs sdcsvax trwrb cbosgd}!sdcrdcf!faigin ARPA: sdcrdcf!faigin@UCLA-LOCUS.ARPA --or-- sdcrdcf!faigin@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU W: SDC, 2500 Colorado MD 52-46; Santa Monica CA 90406; (213) 820-4111 x6493 H: 11743 Darlington Avenue #9; Los Angeles CA 90049; (213) 826-3357 The views and opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of my employer, except the janitor who agrees with everything I write. I hope for his early recovery and release.
ark@alice.UUCP (Andrew Koenig) (07/19/85)
> Dr. Pepper Types: > Mr. Pibb > Can anyone add any others?? Umm, yes I can. How about Dr. Pepper?
gangal@petsd.UUCP (Dept 3271) (07/19/85)
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I seem to remember a "Royal Palm" line (grape, orange, rootbeer) which
was cheaper than the Fanta line... Is that still around?
And, who makes "Ramblin' Root-beer" (Is that Coca-Cola?)
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"one, two, three, four, tell the people what she wore..."bobh@pedsgd.UUCP (Bob Halloran) (07/19/85)
In article <2149@sdcrdcf.UUCP> faigin@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Daniel Faigin) writes: >Now comes the fun part, e.g., listing the products made by Coca >Cola Corporation: > >Colas: > ... >Lemon-Limes: > ... >Oranges/Other Fruits: > Sunkist Orange > diet Sunkist > Fanta (other flavors, ... I recall a pinapple) > In an article I saw about Classic's return, there was mention made of plans for an orange-flavor drink under the Minute Maid label (remember, they own that too). Bob Halloran Sr MTS, Perkin-Elmer DSG ============================================================================= UUCP: {ihnp4, decvax, ucbvax}!vax135!petsd!pedsgd!bobh USPS: 106 Apple St M/S 305, Tinton Falls NJ 07724 DDD: (201) 758-7000 Disclaimer: My opinions are mine alone. Quote: "No matter where you go, there you are" - B. Banzai
pjk@hou2a.UUCP (P.KEMP) (07/19/85)
> Oranges/Other Fruits: > Sunkist Orange > diet Sunkist > Fanta (other flavors, ... I recall a pinapple) . . . > Can anyone add any others?? Don't forget Mello Yello! -- Paul Kemp ihnp4!hou2a!pjk
dpb@cbosgd.UUCP (Dan Bidinger) (07/19/85)
you forgot Mello Yello and Cherry coke
gangal@petsd.UUCP (Dept 3271) (07/19/85)
<> (r) Ummm... I'm pretty sure that Coke owns one of the California wineries. (Maybe Taylor California, I'm not sure...)
woods@hao.UUCP (Greg Woods) (07/20/85)
> Now comes the fun part, e.g., listing the products made by Coca > Cola Corporation: > > Sunkist Orange Very interesting. Someone earlier claimed Dr. Pepper was made by Coke. Now Sunkist. Where I work, Dr. Pepper and Sunkist are both in the Pepsi machine. Does anyone *really* know what is made by whom? If not, please quit posting untruths. Or is there some agreement between Coke and Pepsi that I don't know about??? --Greg -- {ucbvax!hplabs | allegra!nbires | decvax!noao | harpo!seismo | ihnp4!noao} !hao!woods CSNET: woods@NCAR ARPA: woods%ncar@CSNET-RELAY
urquhart@utcs.UUCP (Prof. A. Urquhart) (07/20/85)
> >Now comes the fun part, e.g., listing the products made by Coca >Cola Corporation: > >Colas: > Classic Coke [hmmm, will there be a Caffine Free Classic Coke?] > [new] Coke, > [new] Caffine Free Coke > diet Coke > Caffine Free diet Coke > Tab > Caffine Free Tab > >Lemon-Limes: > Sprite > diet Sprite > Fresca > >Oranges/Other Fruits: > Sunkist Orange > diet Sunkist > Fanta (other flavors, ... I recall a pinapple) > >Root Beer: > Fanta Root Beer > >Dr. Pepper Types: > Mr. Pibb > >Can anyone add any others?? > >Daniel In canada we have Minute Maid (orange soda) and also Five Alive (non-fiz fruit coctail) Andre U. of Toronto
john@moncol.UUCP (John Ruschmeyer) (07/21/85)
> Oranges/Other Fruits: > Sunkist Orange > diet Sunkist > Fanta (other flavors, ... I recall a pinapple) . . . > Can anyone add any others?? Sunkist and Diet Sunkist are, as I understand it, not really made by the Coke people. Rather, they are bottled by the local Coke bottlers with Coke's permission. As other postings have pointed out, Coke is planning on coming out with a Minute Maid line of soft drinks (Coke owns that trademark). A recent issue of one of the major business magazines pointed out some of the dissention and confusion that this is expected to cause. By the way, has anybody seen a Fanta product lately? I remember that they made a Root Beer, Ginger Ale, and Orange Soda under that name. I suspect that Coke has phased all those products out in favor of ones under seperate names, such as Rambling Root Beer. (yes, coke makes that, too) -- Name: John Ruschmeyer US Mail: Monmouth College, W. Long Branch, NJ 07764 Phone: (201) 222-6600 x366 UUCP: ...!vax135!petsd!moncol!john ...!princeton!moncol!john ...!pesnta!moncol!john Silly quote: Little boy, I don't care if your dog can talk. Please tell him this is a TARDIS, not a "Way-Back Machine".
jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) (07/22/85)
> (r) > Ummm... I'm pretty sure that Coke owns one of the California wineries. > (Maybe Taylor California, I'm not sure...) They also apparently own a large portion of the orange groves down here (although at present they are all dead). Many of the groves up in the northern part of the city have the usual "no trespassing" signs on them, but have Coca Cola's name on the bottom of the sign. Down here in the southern part there seem to be a good many independently-owned groves, though... -- Shyy-Anzr: J. Eric Roskos UUCP: ..!{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!vax135!petsd!peora!jer US Mail: MS 795; Perkin-Elmer SDC; 2486 Sand Lake Road, Orlando, FL 32809-7642
pallas@Shasta.ARPA (07/22/85)
Dr. Pepper is definitely NOT made by Coke. It is, I believe, Coke's oldest competition; 100 years old this year according to the can (vs. Coke's 99 years). Please check your facts before you post things, even to silly newsgroups like this one.
dwl10@amdahl.UUCP (Dave Lowrey) (07/23/85)
> By the way, has anybody seen a Fanta product lately? I remember that they > made a Root Beer, Ginger Ale, and Orange Soda under that name. I suspect > that Coke has phased all those products out in favor of ones under seperate > names, such as Rambling Root Beer. (yes, coke makes that, too) We have Fanta Grape (Yuchho!) in our Coke machine at work. The Root Beer is A&W (Excelent!). -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Lowrey "To vacillate or not to vacillate, that is the question.... ....or is it?" ...!(<sun,cbosgd,ihnp4}!amdahl!dwl10 [ The opinions expressed <may> be those of the author and not necessarily those of his most eminent employer. ]
jcjeff@ihlpg.UUCP (Richard Jeffreys) (07/23/85)
> > > >Now comes the fun part, e.g., listing the products made by Coca > >Cola Corporation: > > > >Lemon-Limes: > > Sprite > > diet Sprite > > Fresca Don't they market Slice as well???? I discovered some in southern Indianna, but it is not sold here in the Chicago area. Does anybody know what the distribution area for Slice is?? -- [ It's not the end of the world....no it's not; If it's the end of the world, well so what ? - Marti Webb ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ || From the keys of Richard Jeffreys ( British Citizen Overseas ) || || employed by North American Philips Corporation || || @ AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, Illinois || ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ || General disclaimer about anything and everything that I may have typed || ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ark@alice.UUCP (Andrew Koenig) (07/24/85)
> Dr. Pepper is definitely NOT made by Coke. It is, I believe, Coke's > oldest competition; 100 years old this year according to the can > (vs. Coke's 99 years). > Please check your facts before you post things, even to silly > newsgroups like this one. I *have* checked out my facts. I have a can of Dr. Pepper that says "Produced by the Coca-Cola Bottling Company of New York" on the side.
bccarty@whuts.UUCP (Brian C. Carty) (07/24/85)
> > > > > >Now comes the fun part, e.g., listing the products made by Coca > > >Cola Corporation: > > > > > >Lemon-Limes: > > > Sprite > > > diet Sprite > > > Fresca > > Don't they market Slice as well???? No. Slice is a product of the Pepsi-Cola Corporation. > I discovered some in southern Indianna, but it is not sold here in the > Chicago area. Does anybody know what the distribution area for Slice is?? I don't know what the distribution area is, but it has been in the Boston area at least since April, and I know it is available here in New Jersey. Now for all of the lemon-lime soft-drink lovers, which lemon-lime soda is your favorite? Respond to me by e-mail and I'll summarize to the net in a couple of weeks. -- Brian C. Carty AT&T Bell Laboratories - Piscataway, NJ ..!{ihnp4,allegra}!whuts!bccarty
silber@lasspvax.UUCP (Jeffrey Silber) (07/24/85)
The facts: Dr. Pepper is made by the Dr. Pepper Co. (based in Dallas, and I believe they bought Canada Dry from Norton Simon last year). Sunkist is made by General Cinemas (which may at this point have a connection with Heublein - I know there was some merger talk).
jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) (07/24/85)
> Very interesting. Someone earlier claimed Dr. Pepper was made > by Coke. Now Sunkist. Dr. Pepper is a product of "Dr. Pepper Co., Dallas, TX". I recall that at one time Coke allegedly tried to buy it, just before they came out with Mr. Pibb, but didn't do so. As such, none of the postings you quoted are probably correct.* But, as such, Dr. Pepper is something of a "free agent," and in many cities it gets picked up by some bottler who also bottles another well-known beverage. Apparently the bottling companies have some influence over which sodas get "bundled" together in vending machines (I'm not at all sure that there's any strict requirement, though, that a given machine can contain only ONE company's beverage, unless it's related to who gets their name on the outside of the machine.) In Nashville, for example, the machines were owned by a very large and apparently politically significant vending machine company, who would mix-and-match all kinds of unusual beverage- manufacturer combinations. In any case, the fact that > Where I work, Dr. Pepper and Sunkist are both in the Pepsi machine. might reflect the fact that the same bottler bottles both Dr. Pepper and Sunkist; check the fine print on the side of the bottle. As for the concluding statement, > Does anyone *really* know what is made by whom? If not, please quit > posting untruths. Or is there some agreement between Coke and Pepsi that I > don't know about??? The first question is a big question, and as such, asking people to "quit posting untruths" isn't really fair. The only people who really know the exact details of what's happening inside the beverage industry are those who are involved in it, and they aren't likely to tell you. Thus, careful, objective observation, and some use of the scientific method, often are best. These are often wrong; but then, the reason I (personally) find the beverage industry so interesting is because it is always full of these intriguing puzzles, and when you finally get some revelation as to the answer to the puzzle, often it is something no one outside ever even thought of. And, without meaning to be unkind, your last sentence is sort of an untruth too... but this is just an example of how complex it all is. *I have always wondered whether this rumored story might be a driving force behind the strange marketing of Mr. Pibb. Since Dr. Pepper might be possibly protected by trade secrets, etc., maybe if Mr. Pibb eroded Dr. Pepper's market enough, it would be worth their while to pursue Coke with legal action; but if Mr. Pibb is carefully marketed only in cities that don't have Dr. Pepper bottlers, or some such thing, it could fill in the niches, thus helping increase Coke's income without directly competing with Dr. Pepper. HOWEVER, this is entirely speculation on my part, and may be entirely wrong. (So don't go making any big stock decisions based on it :-).) DISCLAIMER: Everything above is my opinion, and very little of it comes from any reliable source other than the sides of tin cans and life in many cities. -- Shyy-Anzr: J. Eric Roskos UUCP: ..!{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!vax135!petsd!peora!jer US Mail: MS 795; Perkin-Elmer SDC; 2486 Sand Lake Road, Orlando, FL 32809-7642
silber@lasspvax.UUCP (Jeffrey Silber) (07/24/85)
> >Don't they market Slice as well???? >I discovered some in southern Indianna, but it is not sold here in the >Chicago area. Does anybody know what the distribution area for Slice is?? > **gasp** a traitor in our midst. Slice is a product of the **enemy** -- that's right it is from the Pepsi Cola Company, of Purchase, NY. Also -- in response to those who say that Coca-Cola owns Taylor Wines. They did own it, but they sold it to Seagrams.
tomk@ur-laser.uucp (Tom Kessler) (07/24/85)
It turns out that Dr. Pepper and Sunkist are independent companies.
They look for local companies to bottle their product (syrup is made
at a central location) quite frequently they make deals with the local
coke or pepsi bottling company to bottle and distribute their product.--
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Rochester, New York 14623slb@uvacs.UUCP (sandy) (07/24/85)
> > Dr. Pepper Types: > > Mr. Pibb > > > Can anyone add any others?? > > Umm, yes I can. How about Dr. Pepper? Sorry folks, Coca-Cola does *NOT* make Dr. Pepper!! One taste should tell you that.... In some areas, the same bottler may handle both Coke and the good stuff, but Coke doesn't get your money. sandy
roth@ut-sally.UUCP (Mark Roth) (07/24/85)
> > Don't they market Slice as well???? > I discovered some in southern Indianna, but it is not sold here in the > Chicago area. Does anybody know what the distribution area for Slice is?? > > || From the keys of Richard Jeffreys ( British Citizen Overseas ) || On my can of Slice are the infamous words: From the Makers of Pepsi-Cola.
csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe) (07/25/85)
In article <928@ihlpg.UUCP> jcjeff@ihlpg.UUCP (Richard Jeffreys) writes: >Don't they market Slice as well???? >I discovered some in southern Indianna, but it is not sold here in the Slice is made by Pepsi. It's really good, too. It's led me to believe that Pepsi should leave the cola market (and take their offensive sugar-water with them) and concentrate on marketing this stuff which is honestly good. -- Charles Forsythe CSDF@MIT-VAX Wang Zeep:"Lord Fred, how can I show them you are the True God?" Lord Fred:"Because I said I am." Wang Zeep:"Seriously." Lord Fred:"Look, it works for every other religion."
woods@hao.UUCP (Greg Woods) (07/25/85)
> Don't they [Coca-Cola corporation] market Slice as well????
Definitely not. I believe Slice is a Pepsi product. At the very least,
it's an independent, since they have Diet Slice in the Pepsi machine at work.
--Greg
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"Comes a time, when a blind man takes your hand, says don't you see..."steve@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Steve Holtsberg) (07/25/85)
In article <7035@Shasta.ARPA> pallas@Shasta.ARPA writes: >Dr. Pepper is definitely NOT made by Coke. It is, I believe, Coke's >oldest competition; 100 years old this year according to the can >(vs. Coke's 99 years). > >Please check your facts before you post things, even to silly >newsgroups like this one. I just had a can of Dr. Pepper today, and it said on the can "Packaged at the Coca-Cola bottling company", although made at the Dr. Pepper Company. So, even though they don't make it, Coca-Cola is making money off of Dr. Pepper.
dwl10@amdahl.UUCP (Dave Lowrey) (07/25/85)
> > > > > >Now comes the fun part, e.g., listing the products made by Coca > > >Cola Corporation: > > > > > >Lemon-Limes: > > > Sprite > > > diet Sprite > > > Fresca > > Don't they market Slice as well???? > I discovered some in southern Indianna, but it is not sold here in the > Chicago area. Does anybody know what the distribution area for Slice is?? Slice is made by Pepsico. Squirt is better anyways. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Lowrey "To vacillate or not to vacillate, that is the question.... ....or is it?" ...!(<sun,cbosgd,ihnp4}!amdahl!dwl10 [ The opinions expressed <may> be those of the author and not necessarily those of his most eminent employer. ]
bccarty@whuts.UUCP (Brian C. Carty) (07/26/85)
> > By the way, has anybody seen a Fanta product lately? I remember that they > > made a Root Beer, Ginger Ale, and Orange Soda under that name. I suspect > > that Coke has phased all those products out in favor of ones under seperate > > names, such as Rambling Root Beer. (yes, coke makes that, too) > > We have Fanta Grape (Yuchho!) in our Coke machine at work. The Root > Beer is A&W (Excelent!). Hold it. Does this mean that Coca-Cola owns the A&W fast-food chain too?? -- Brian C. Carty AT&T Bell Laboratories - Piscataway, NJ ..!{ihnp4|allegra}!whuts!bccarty
asente@Cascade.ARPA (07/28/85)
In article <2189@sdcrdcf.UUCP> steve@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Steve Holtsberg) writes: >I just had a can of Dr. Pepper today, and it said on the can >"Packaged at the Coca-Cola bottling company", although made at >the Dr. Pepper Company. So, even though they don't make it, >Coca-Cola is making money off of Dr. Pepper. You are dealing with two separate institutions here! The bottling companies are not (necessarily) owned by the company that makes the syrup. Consequently, they can make agreements with whichever companies they wish to bottle their products, subject, of course, to certain exclusivity agreements. The fact that bottling companies usually take their names from the name of their principal product is irrelevant. Dr. Pepper may be bottled by the Coca-Cola Bottling Co. of Outer Slovabia but by the Pepsi-Cola Bottling Co. of Inner Moldavia. Both buy their syrup from the Dr. Pepper company in Wherever. Separate question: if Diet Slice contains 10% fruit juice, how can it contain so few calories? -paul asente Amusing anecdote: as an undergraduate, I discovered that if you put the soft serve ice cream from the machines in the dining hall into the Coke from the machines in the dining hall, and waited about ten minutes, what you ended up with was a glass of almost clear liquid with about half an inch of dark brown scum at the top. Yum!
silber@lasspvax.UUCP (Jeffrey Silber) (07/28/85)
Coca-Cola bottling companies are not owned by Coca-Cola. They may bottle other products, within the limitations of their contract with Coca-Cola (i.e. they may not bottle Pepsi). Thus, Coca-Cola, Inc. does not make money off of Dr. Pepper, but other companies do (e.g. Wometco, Mid-state Bottling, etc.). Alsom,Coca-Cola does not own A&W. Correction-- earlier I said that Sunkist was owned by General Cinema. I have since learned that it is now a product of R.J. Reynolds.
andrew@grkermi.UUCP (Andrew W. Rogers) (07/29/85)
In article <7035@Shasta.ARPA> pallas@Shasta.ARPA writes: >Dr. Pepper is definitely NOT made by Coke. It is, I believe, Coke's >oldest competition; 100 years old this year according to the can >(vs. Coke's 99 years). > >Please check your facts before you post things, even to silly >newsgroups like this one. Coke's oldest competition is MOXIE, 101 years old this month (see The Wall Street Journal, 7/12/85)!!! Please check *your* facts! AWR
paul@helens.UUCP (Paul Brownlow @ Data I/O -- Redmond, WA) (07/29/85)
> Now comes the fun part, e.g., listing the products made by Coca > Cola Corporation: > > Root Beer: > Fanta Root Beer > > Dr. Pepper Types: > Mr. Pibb > > Can anyone add any others?? > Let's see, there's: Ramblin' Root Beer Cherry Coke (blech!) Now, if they could make good tequila..... paul -- ...."You're never alone with a schizophrenic."
training@rtech.UUCP (Training account) (07/29/85)
> > Dr. Pepper is definitely NOT made by Coke. It is, I believe, Coke's > > oldest competition; 100 years old this year according to the can > > (vs. Coke's 99 years). > > > Please check your facts before you post things, even to silly > > newsgroups like this one. > > I *have* checked out my facts. I have a can of Dr. Pepper that says > "Produced by the Coca-Cola Bottling Company of New York" on the side. That just means that it was bottled by a company that bottles Coke. The syrup is produced by Dr. Pepper, which is completely unrelated to Coke.
uggoodjm@sunybcs.UUCP (a Model I) (07/29/85)
> > Dr. Pepper is definitely NOT made by Coke. It is, I believe, Coke's > > oldest competition; 100 years old this year according to the can > > (vs. Coke's 99 years). > > > Please check your facts before you post things, even to silly > > newsgroups like this one. > > I *have* checked out my facts. I have a can of Dr. Pepper that says > "Produced by the Coca-Cola Bottling Company of New York" on the side. Please notice that the Coca-Cola BOTTLING Company of New York IS NOT the Coca-Cola Company, Inc. Coca-Cola DOES NOT OWN its bottlers. They are independent businesses owned by independent businessmen. Dr. Pepper is the oldest Cola-based COMPETITION to Coke, being 100 years old this year. Its cherry-cola like taste is part of the reason Coke has now brought out a Cherry Coke, in an attempt to slow DP's growth into Coke's market, and the youth markets, just as new Coke was to stem the tide of Pepsi's growth. J. Matthew Good ...!sunybcs!uggoodjm "I may prefer the old Coke but I'll always 'be a Pepper'"
kurtzman@uscvax.UUCP (Stephen Kurtzman) (07/30/85)
> In article <7035@Shasta.ARPA> pallas@Shasta.ARPA writes: > >Dr. Pepper is definitely NOT made by Coke. It is, I believe, Coke's > >oldest competition; 100 years old this year according to the can > >(vs. Coke's 99 years). > > > >Please check your facts before you post things, even to silly > >newsgroups like this one. > > I just had a can of Dr. Pepper today, and it said on the can > "Packaged at the Coca-Cola bottling company", although made at > the Dr. Pepper Company. So, even though they don't make it, > Coca-Cola is making money off of Dr. Pepper.
mojo@well.UUCP (Mojo Jones) (07/30/85)
In article <1996@sunybcs.UUCP> uggoodjm@sunybcs.UUCP (J. Matthew Good) writes: >Its [Dr. Pepper's] cherry-cola like taste is part of the reason Coke has now >brought out a Cherry Coke, in an attempt to slow DP's growth into Coke's >market, and the youth markets, just as new Coke was to stem the tide of >Pepsi's growth. Dr. Pepper always tasted more like prunes than anything else to me.
pedz@ctvax (07/30/85)
At S.M.U., the drink machines are managed by Dr. Pepper. From these machines you can be Coke which says in effect "Canned at Dr. Pepper". Thus, I think very very little can be inferred from the information about where things are packaged. pedz
knf@druxo.UUCP (FricklasK) (08/05/85)
I think where everybody is blowing is that they all fail to make the distinction between the companies that make the syrup and the companies that bottle (and can ) the stuff. Dr. Pepper and Sunkist are marketed (and bottled) by bottlers with both the names 'Coca cola bottling company of Hogville' and the 'Pepsi cola bottling company of Fredville'-- These companies are INDEPENDANT of the manufac- turers. They can buy whatever syrup they want and bottle (and distribute) it. '`'`' Ken ''`'`'
pjk@hou2a.UUCP (P.KEMP) (08/06/85)
>In article <7035@Shasta.ARPA> pallas@Shasta.ARPA writes: >>Dr. Pepper is definitely NOT made by Coke. It is, I believe, Coke's >>oldest competition; 100 years old this year according to the can >>(vs. Coke's 99 years). >> >>Please check your facts before you post things, even to silly >>newsgroups like this one. > >Coke's oldest competition is MOXIE, 101 years old this month (see The Wall >Street Journal, 7/12/85)!!! > >Please check *your* facts! > >AWR You're both wrong! Coke's oldest competition is WATER (H2O), over 4 billion years old this era. Please check **your** facts!! :-) -- Paul Kemp ihnp4!hou2a!pjk
percus@acf4.UUCP (Allon G. Percus) (08/19/85)
> You're both wrong! > Coke's oldest competition is WATER (H2O), > over 4 billion years old this era. > > Please check **your** facts!! :-) Let's hear it for Coke's oldest competition! (It definitely has a lead in popularity over Coke...)