jdb@mordor.UUCP (John Bruner) (09/01/85)
> I would like to know where you get your facts, about coke using > 100% corn syrup and still having the can say sugar. IF the can > said sugar, and there was no sugar in it, some smart lawyer somewhere > would be relaxing in the bahama's now drinking pina collada's. Fructose IS sugar. It just isn't sucrose. In the grocery store yesterday I looked at the list of ingredients on the cap of a 16 ounce bottle of "New" Coke. It said "sugar". Do I therefore assume that New Coke in bottles is different than New Coke in cans? No, I assume that Coca Cola hasn't changed the bottle caps yet (or the bottler is exhausting his inventory), just as they hadn't changed the labels on the old Coke cans when its formula changed. I remember seeing newspaper articles about Coke's use of 100% months ago, long before the current hoopla over the real formula vs. the new formula. Face it, if you didn't notice when it really did change, you wouldn't notice it now unless (perhaps) you really were looking for it. While I wouldn't put it as strongly as the original author did, I'm quite amused by the perception that Coke Classic isn't old Coke because the label is different. The fact that many people cannot even distinguish the tastes of New Coke and real Coke in a blind test, yet have no difficulty when the containers are clearly visible, makes me extremely skeptical that anyone would have complained if Coca Cola had retained the word "sugar" on the label of Coke Classic. (I wonder how many people would have noticed that pennies are no longer made of copper if the change weren't announced?) -- John Bruner (S-1 Project, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory) MILNET: jdb@mordor [jdb@s1-c.ARPA] (415) 422-0758 UUCP: ...!ucbvax!dual!mordor!jdb ...!seismo!mordor!jdb
pjk@hou2a.UUCP (P.KEMP) (09/04/85)
In the stores in this area (Holmdel,NJ), they stock about 5 times more Classic Coke than New Coke. I wonder what the early sales figures show nationally. The new Coke motto is: > Coke: The Real Choice On the issue of Coke sweeteners: I wonder what the government allows in calling a sweetener "sugar." I would figure that it would mean sucrose, dextrose or possibly pure fructose, but *not* corn syrup. So "High Fructose Corn Syrup" (HFCS) may not be legally labeled "sugar." HFCS is still corn syrup with a high fructose content. People with a severe allergy to corn might have a reaction to something containing HFCS. If the can is labeled as having just "sugar", I think they could sue the bottler and maybe even the Coca-Cola Co. If these bottlers think HFCS can be called sugar, why is my can of Classic Coke labeled: > High Fructose Corn Syrup and/or Sugar. My dictionary defines corn syrup as: > A syrup made from cornstarch: it is a mixture of > dextrose, maltose, and dextrins. And sugar as: > Any of a class of sweet, soluble, crystalline > carbohydrates, as the disaccharides (sucrose, > lactose, and maltose) and the monosaccharides > (glucose [dextrose?] and fructose). It probably then contains some corn proteins. Is the "Sugar Association" planning to sue the various Coke bottlers (and Coca-Cola Co. itself) for mislabeling Old Coke in the early 1980's? SUGAR (sucrose): The Classic Sweetener! -- Paul Kemp ihnp4!hou2a!pjk The above statements are those of the author only, and are not those of AT&T Bell Laboratories.
howarde@mmintl.UUCP (Howard Eglowstein) (09/05/85)
Cans of coke are subject to the same Truth in Advertising laws as all other consumer goods. If a can says sugar, it contains sugar. Coke has changed all the new Choke cans to say "Sugar and/or Corn Syrup" or notes to that effect. By doing so, the bottlers can now use whatever they like. There are people in the world (I know two of them) that CANNOT consume corn products, including corn syrup. If they had consumed a can of coke which claimed to have sugar and didn't, they would have got REAL sick and been able to sue Coke. They never have and didn't. The point is- You can't say a product contains one thing and put in something else. I don't like the taste of corn syrup coke, and I've been looking for dusty old 16 oz bottles which contain sugar. The last 8-pack I found tastes like the garbage with corn syrup. Looks like I'm back to RC also.
pjk@hou2a.UUCP (P.KEMP) (09/05/85)
A correction to my previous posting: > If these bottlers think HFCS can be called sugar, > why is my can of Classic Coke labeled: > > High Fructose Corn Syrup and/or Sugar I re-checked the Classic Coke last night and found that the ingredient list actually reads: > High Fructose Corn Syrup and/or Sucrose For some strange reason I tend to confuse sucrose with "sugar." :-) Sugar (sucrose): The Classic Sweetener! -- Paul Kemp ihnp4!hou2a!pjk The above statements are those of the author only, and are not those of AT&T Bell Laboratories.
walter@micomvax.UUCP (Walter R. Steinemann) (09/05/85)
Article 294 of net.misc.coke: >>> I would like to know where you get your facts, about coke using >> 100% corn syrup and still having the can say sugar. IF the can >> said sugar, and there was no sugar in it, some smart lawyer somewhere >> would be relaxing in the bahama's now drinking pina collada's. > >Fructose IS sugar. It just isn't sucrose. > > John Bruner (S-1 Project, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory) All this discussions about sugar has got me very worried. Do you mean that when I go out and buy granulated SUGAR, I could really be getting GRANULATED HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP!!! uuuuuuuuugggggghhhhhhhhh..... WalteR can be found at ...!philabs!micomvax!walter