[net.ham-radio.packet] Pressing Issues for Packet Radio Development

CHEPPONIS@CMU-CS-C.ARPA (08/29/85)

From: Mike Chepponis <Michael.Chepponis@CMU-CS-C.ARPA>
There are many things we packeteers should be doing, such as helping new users,
setting up networks, installing and maintaining BB systems, etc.  But there are
two areas that I think work should be done, and I'm soliciting comments on
why one should be done vs the other.  They are:

	1) Develop a small, cheap, yet flexible TNC which does AX.25.
	   I believe a z80 system with just 5 other chips could do it; so
	   far, total parts/board/power costs are about $30.

	2) Develop high-speed modems and implement TCP/IP.  "High-speed" here
	   means 56 kb/sec, because that is the maximum rate allowed on 220 and
	   440 bands; really high-speed stuff will have to be on 1240 MHz.

On (1), I think that having really cheap, flexible TNCs means that many more
people will get on packet, we'll have that many more BBS stations, more
gateways, etc.  Price is important!  I envision a top speed of 9600 baud for
the TNC.

On (2), If somebody doesn't demo a TCP/IP system soon, it's possible the VC
folks will, and that may become the de-facto standard (Yeech!).  Also, I
believe that slow speeds and levels 3/4 don't mix, so high-speed modems are
necessary.

Comments appreciated,	73,	-Mike, K3MC

p.s. C U at MARPC meeting September 7.
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F33PAP%DHHDESY3.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA (08/30/85)

From: F33PAP%DHHDESY3.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA
>   ... should be done vs the other.  They are:
>
>   1) Develop a small, cheap, yet flexible TNC which does AX.25.
>      I believe a z80 system with just 5 other chips could do it; so
>      far, total parts/board/power costs are about $30.

  Here in Hamburg we try to design a TNC which may fit into this. It  is
based on a Z80 using a 8530SCC as serial interface (it does all you need
for HDLC protocol) and 7911 world modem chip (to be able  to  switch  to
300 Bd for HF). Total estimated cost is  about  DM 200  (abt  67$).  The
board is a 10 by 16 cm "EURO"-board with a 31 or 64 pin  connector  (not
decided yet).
  As part of this project we would like  to  have  some  software  info.
If anybody has got the source code for the TAPR TNC  this  would  really
help us with the "protocol hacking".
    Karl-Heinz   DK8HI     BITNET:  F33PAP at DHHDESY3
                           ARPA:    F33PAP%DHHDESY3.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA