[mod.politics] Fixed taxes but choice among programs

kfl%mx.lcs.mit.edu@MC.LCS.MIT.EDU (08/23/86)

    From: Lynn Gazis <SAPPHO@SRI-NIC.ARPA>

    ... [In this system] people pay the same taxes they do now but get
    to allocate them as they will ... instead of allocating the money
    on their tax forms (where the government could know what each
    individual's preferences were), they could fill out separate,
    anonymous allocation forms.  This would preserve anonymity, at the
    price of making it easy for people to lie on their allocation
    forms ...

  Actually, there is a way to guarantee that everyone pays the right
amount without allowing government to see what each individual
allocated his money to.  Each taxpayer would be issued a number of
ballots proportional to the tax he pays, and would secretly fill them
out and put them in a ballot box.
  I do not support this, but I do think it is better than the current
system.
  The logical extension of this is to allow ANYONE to make up a new
government program.  Since nobody would HAVE to pay for it, why not?
Why should taxpayers be compelled to choose among a limited
selection?  Surely it is possible that someone morally objects to ALL
of the choices, so why not allow him to make up new ones?  He has to
pay the same amount of money anyhow, right?
                                                              ...Keith

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sappho@SRI-NIC.ARPA (08/23/86)

To: KFL%MX.LCS.MIT.EDU@MC.LCS.MIT.EDU

Yes, that would work.  I can't think of any reason to adopt that
system and not allow people to make up new choices.  It's less
convenient for the government to allow that, but if one cares more
about the convenience of the government than people's freedom to
choose where their money goes, then there would be no reason to adopt
fixed taxes with choice among programs to begin with.

Lynn Gazis
sappho@sri-nic
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kfl%mx.lcs.mit.edu@mc.lcs.mit.edu (08/25/86)

    From: Lynn Gazis <SAPPHO@SRI-NIC.ARPA>

    Yes, that would work.  I can't think of any reason to adopt that
    system and not allow people to make up new choices.  ...

  What would keep a person from making a direct government grant to
himself a government project, and earmarking all of his tax money
for that project?
                                                              ...Keith

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sappho@SRI-NIC.ARPA (08/25/86)

To: KFL%MX.LCS.MIT.EDU@MC.LCS.MIT.EDU

Well, that particular choice could simply be ruled out.  But then
people could do the same thing indirectly by exchanging taxes, each
giving a direct grant to the other.  You could rule out direct grants
to individuals.  But to some extent the ability to use your tax money
selectively to benefit yourself is inherent in any system which allows
you to choose where your tax money goes, even if people aren't allowed
to make up their own programs.  Another problem with having people
create their own programs would be that you could wind up, for
instance, with some people spending their tax money on military aid to
the Sandinistas while others spent theirs on military aid to the
contras.  I guess that individual programs could only be allowed if
there were restrictions.  Allowing individual groups of citizens to
give military aid to any country or terrorist organization of their
choice would not be acceptable.  (I am still only thinking of things
it is now legal for our government to do, and I am not thrilled about
the fact that our government can give any weapons it chooses to any
government or terrorist group it chooses.  So don't throw back at me
the argument that individuals have the same rights as the government.)

Lynn Gazis
sappho@sri-nic
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