[net.micro.att] AT&T 3B-2's

darrell@sdcsvax.UUCP (Darrell Long) (05/04/85)

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	Well, here is a short summary of what I learned in my quest for
3B-2 lore.

1. The only public document that describes the processor in any detail
   is the 5620 ``BLIT'' manual.  This is the manual for the bit-mapped
   display, not the 3B-2, so all things are not applicable.

2. Internal documents do exist which describe, in great detail, all
   that one would care to know about the WE-3200x processor module.
   These documents have ``proprietary'' stamped all over them, and
   so are of no use to students (since I can't Xerox them or in any
   way get copies to my students).

	A wise friend of mine once said that if AT&T ever hopes to be
the giant in the computer industry that it hopes to be, that it would
do well to buy IBM's marketing department.  Now, I see that my friend
is probably right.
-- 
Darrell Long
Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
University of California, San Diego

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nrf@whuxlm.UUCP (Fildes N R) (05/07/85)

Now that AT&T is selling the 32000 series to the real world, a volume
on the internals of the whole line is available to the public. It describes
the instruction set and the details of the whole chip set (cpu, mmu, fpu, etc)

ped@mtuxo.UUCP (p.davidson) (05/07/85)

REFERENCES:  <843@sdcsvax.UUCP>, <759@whuxlm.UUCP>

	Where can we get the volume on the internals and
instruction set now that the 32000 is available to the public ???

wapd@houxj.UUCP (Bill Dietrich) (05/07/85)

To get data sheets on the WE 32000 processor in the 3B-2/300,
I think you are supposed to call (800) 372-2447.


				Bill Dietrich
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nrf@whuxlm.UUCP (Fildes N R) (05/08/85)

> REFERENCES:  <843@sdcsvax.UUCP>, <759@whuxlm.UUCP>
> 
> 	Where can we get the volume on the internals and
> instruction set now that the 32000 is available to the public ???

From 'UNIX(tm) Microsystem - WE(r) 32100 Microprocessor Manual':

	For additional information contact your Sales Account Representative
	or call:

	* Commercial Sales: 1-800-372-2447
	* AT&T and Associated Company sales: (215)770-3204 (CORNET)8-624-3204

	To obtain additional copies of this manual, Select Code 451-000, call:

	* 1-800-432-6600

wfmans@ihuxb.UUCP (w. mansfield) (05/08/85)

> *** REPLACE AT&T's MARKETING STAFF ***
> 
> 	A wise friend of mine once said that if AT&T ever hopes to be
> the giant in the computer industry that it hopes to be, that it would
> do well to buy IBM's marketing department.  Now, I see that my friend
> is probably right.
> -- 
> Darrell Long
> Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
> University of California, San Diego

Umm..  It may interest you to know that Jim Edwards, the AT&T Computer
Systems President, formerly of IBM marketing, just hired Roland Pampel,
formerly of IBM marketing, to be the VP of Computer Systems Marketing
and Development.  Can't comment on the rest of the staff, but start at
the top if you want to change direction.

	Bill Mansfield
	AT&T Information Systems, Naperville, IL
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	Bill Mansfield
	AT&T Information Systems, Naperville, IL
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wcs@ho95b.UUCP (Bill Stewart) (05/09/85)

> To get data sheets on the WE 32000 processor in the 3B-2/300,
> I think you are supposed to call (800) 372-2447.
> 				Bill Dietrich
> 				houxj!wapd

Actually, we just announced the 32100 series, which is the successor to the
32000 series.  The early 3B2s used the 32000; I think some of the later
3B2/300s used the 32100.  Certainly anything new will use it.
The 32100 series, by the way, includes a floating point chip, which takes
care of the main performance lose in the 3B2 (good software has done half
that job, though.)

There have been some comments recently about FFTs, and how it probably
wouldn't make sense to build a special-purpose machine to do them.  We have a
chip called the DSP-32 Digital Signal Processor, which is designed for
fast repetitive floating point calculations (4 or 8 MFLOPS, depending on what
you count).  Basically it's designed for doing FFTs and similar signal
processing for communications equipment.  I think we sell them?

I don't do chips, but the phone number above is probably the right people to
call for 32100 documentation.
		Bill

Disclaimer: Sorry if this is too commercial, but it seemed germane to the
discussion.
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			Bill Stewart	1-201-949-0705
			AT&T Bell Labs, Room 4K-435, Holmdel NJ
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