[net.micro.att] Hayes modem and the 3b2

revc@gwsd.UUCP (Bob Van Cleef) (05/25/85)

There is a problem using the Hayes modems as an ACU.

To originate calls (outgoing) you must disable the carrier detect (switch 6).
To receive calls (incoming) you must enable carrier detect.

Has anyone figured out a way to allow you to use a Hayes modem on a uucp
bi-directional line?

Bob

george@mnetor.UUCP (George Hart) (05/30/85)

> There is a problem using the Hayes modems as an ACU.
> 
> To originate calls (outgoing) you must disable the carrier detect (switch 6).
> To receive calls (incoming) you must enable carrier detect.
> 
> Has anyone figured out a way to allow you to use a Hayes modem on a uucp
> bi-directional line?
> 
> Bob

Yes.  Get another modem such as the POPCOM X100 which is a Hayes superset
and controls all the switch positions in software.  It can be used in a
totally Hayes-compatible mode or in it's own superset mode.


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Regards,

George Hart, Computer X Canada Ltd.
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merlyn@avalon.UUCP (Steve Humphrey) (05/30/85)

> There is a problem using the Hayes modems as an ACU.
> 
> To originate calls (outgoing) you must disable the carrier detect (switch 6).
> To receive calls (incoming) you must enable carrier detect.
> 
> Has anyone figured out a way to allow you to use a Hayes modem on a uucp
> bi-directional line?
> 
> Bob

No, it is not possible with the standard software to use the Hayes
modem bidirectional. Reason: The cu/uucp software accesses a modem
in a way that requires DCD to be up. The 3B2 is capable of allowing
access with DCD down, and I've modified the cu/uucp software to do
that. Even running that modified software, though, I still had
minor problems with the modem, thus I don't use it any more. (I never
identified the problems, so I don't know who to blame.)

I sent my software modification to DAN (as in Honey-DanBer UUCP)
so it may appear in a later release.

If you find it expensive to (1) toss out a pile of Hayes modems
and buy other modems (e.g. Ventel, Penril, AT&T 2224C all work fine),
(2) use two ports on the 3B2 (one incoming, one outgoing), or
(3) buy the source so you can do the software fix, then consider
a hardware work-around:

The Hayes keeps the CTS (Clear To Send) signal up while connected
to the 3B2. The work-around is to build a small circuit that uses
CTS and DCD from the modem to build a pseudo-DCD signal for the
3B2. The trick is to keep the pseudo-DCD signal up while the CTS
signal is up, regardless of the state of the DCD signal, EXCEPT
when the DCD goes from high to low (i.e. when a connection to a
remote machine is dropped). At that transition, the circuit drops
the pseudo-DCD for a short interval (about one second should be
enough) then raises it again. This tells the cu/uucp software
that the connection dropped, so the software quits; raising the
pseudo-DCD back up again lets another outgoing call be placed.

What does the circuit look like? I wish I knew, sorry. We were
starting to design the circuit, since we have a closet full of
Hayes modems that we'd like to use, but other work took
precedence. Interested parties can drop me a note and I'll
give you what info I have, but be warned: I'm not a hardware jock
so I don't know much more than I've described above.

			Steve Humphrey
			...!avalon!merlyn
			AT&T
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			Steve Humphrey
			hogpc!merlyn or lz3f310!merlyn