jlr@we53.UUCP (JAN L. RICHARDSON) (09/08/86)
I have a 6300+ with UNIX and Simul-task installed and I NEED SOME HELP!! AT&T--you did a respectible job, but you reference manuals which did not come with the system and for which no PEC codes exists to allow you to order the things. At least the VAR's don't have PEC codes for them. Specifically, right now, I have 2 urgent information needs. 1. When you install a MS-DOS application from the UNIX admin window routines, simul-task goes out and create several copies of the application, using a great deal of disk space. I have decided I need the disk space, but cannot uninstall the application. It assumes that there should be an uninstall script for each application. How can I uninstall the application or can someone tell me what UNIX and DOS files should be deleted and/or modified to effectively uninstall the application manually. Because I do not have the information need to accomplish this, number 2 occured as I decided to rebuild the system to free the disk space. 2. When I receive a piece of software I always make a back-up because Murphy lived. It has never failed that when I do not, or can not, make a back-up something happens and I'm waiting for the manufacturer to send me a new copy while I sit dead on the tube. I have been successful at backing up all the UNIX and Support Tools except the simul-task diskette and you guessed it-- due to Murphy, it's trashed. I have already started the process to get a replacement, when it comes I want to make a backup. Can someone please tell me what AT&T has done which makes prevents it from being backed up. The system recognizes the copy as a copy and then asks for the original. I am not trying to steal the software--I own it. I merely want to have the thing so when stupid sequences of events occur like happened this weekend, I can chalk up 2 hours (rather than weeks) to repair and get on with work. Please email responses to ihnp4!we53!jlr. Extremely frustrated!!! Jan Richardson
wcgo@mtuxo.UUCP (w.ortel) (09/11/86)
> > I have a 6300+ with UNIX and Simul-task installed and I NEED SOME HELP!! > AT&T--you did a respectible job, but you reference manuals which did not > come with the system and for which no PEC codes exists to allow you to > order the things. At least the VAR's don't have PEC codes for them. > Specifically, right now, I have 2 urgent information needs. > > 1. When you install a MS-DOS application from the UNIX admin window routines, > simul-task goes out and create several copies of the application, using a > great deal of disk space. I have decided I need the disk space, but cannot > uninstall the application. It assumes that there should be an uninstall > script for each application. How can I uninstall the application or can > someone tell me what UNIX and DOS files should be deleted and/or modified > to effectively uninstall the application manually. Because I do not have > the information need to accomplish this, number 2 occured as I decided to > rebuild the system to free the disk space. > > 2. When I receive a piece of software I always make a back-up because Murphy > lived. It has never failed that when I do not, or can not, make a back-up > something happens and I'm waiting for the manufacturer to send me a new copy > while I sit dead on the tube. I have been successful at backing up all the > UNIX and Support Tools except the simul-task diskette and you guessed it-- > due to Murphy, it's trashed. I have already started the process to get a > replacement, when it comes I want to make a backup. Can someone please tell > me what AT&T has done which makes prevents it from being backed up. The > system recognizes the copy as a copy and then asks for the original. I > am not trying to steal the software--I own it. I merely want to have the > thing so when stupid sequences of events occur like happened this weekend, > I can chalk up 2 hours (rather than weeks) to repair and get on with work. > > Please email responses to ihnp4!we53!jlr. > > Extremely frustrated!!! > > Jan Richardson Some comments by a local expert on the PLUS: The only UNIX manual you did not receive with Simul-Task is the User Reference Manual which has the UNIX manual pages in it and would not have helped with what you are trying to do. The 160 page Simul-Task section of the Operations Guide has the most info about what you are looking for and is included with each copy of Simul-Task. If you still want the User Reference Manual it is PEC 1610-223. Simul-Task does not make mutiple copies of your application. It only links names of your application to various directories. All the names point to the same file stored (only once) on your disk. To remove the application is a little tricky if you are not familiar with a little bit of UNIX (a future version of Simul-Task will make uninstalling easier). In a nutshell, however, the procedure is this: 1) Use "Program Administration" to take the application out of the Programs menu, if applicable. 2) Verify that the PATH variable in /etc/profile has NOT been updated to include the application's directory. If it has, simply remove the application directory and edit /etc/profile to remove it from PATH. 3) Otherwise, you need not do anything to /etc/profile and must execute the following procedure AS SUPER-USER: a) cd <application directory> b) for f in * do rm /osm/lbin/$f $f done c) cd .. d) rmdir <application directory> You should not have had trouble copying the Simul-Task disk. It is simply a 360K floppy with the DOS system files. You should use the MS-DOS Diskcopy command and not copy *.* to make sure you get the system files and the right formatting. Bill Ortel AT&T, Lincroft NJ Product Management, PC 6300 PLUS (201)576-3242 (mtuxo!wcgo)
stu@jpusa1.UUCP (Stu Heiss) (09/12/86)
Summary: Expires: Well, not exactly. What I want to know is whether simultask will run on microport unix. Microport claims to be binary compatable with 6300+ unix and if simultask is strictly user code with, it seems it should work. I've asked microport about this and without divulging details, they say it's not as easy as that. By December it should be moot as microport plans to have simultask available, but I would like to use it in an application now. Does anyone have the scoop? Please reply via e-mail and I'll post a summary if any hard facts show up. -- Stu Heiss {ihnp4!jpusa1!stu}