[pe.cust.general] Participation in pe.cust newsgroups

steve@lpi3230.UUCP (Steve Burbeck) (03/01/85)

<bug food>

Thanks in part to the replies to my query about a driver, the driver
in question is now working well.  I particularly want to thank twg!mario,
nrcaero!carl and petsd!lts.

As Brent pointed out, we all owe Earl Wallace of PE-Santa Clara (pesnta)
our gratitude for his political and technical work in getting the pe.cust
newsgroups going.  Other than the yearly Interchange meetings, the pe.cust
group is the only way we have of exchanging views.  And, unlike interchange
meetings, the uucp net allows the posting of such valuable pieces as Axel's
articles and driver manual which are more usable in machine readable form
than in printed form.  It is unfortunate that Axel can communicate on the
net only in proxy via Carl Swail's kind aid.

The value of the pe.cust newsgroup grows in proportion to the number of
PE sites participating and to the degree that PE itself and TWG participate.
Note from those who responded to my driver query, both twg and petsd are
on the net and do respond to requests for aid (however unofficially).
It is understandable that TWG and PE do not (and perhaps should not)
have an official role in the net.  Other organizations don't, including
DEC, AT&T, HP, etc.  By supporting some of the phone charges incurred by
forwarding Usenet news to various sites, PE is making pe.cust possible.
Unofficial participation on the part of individuals at TWG and/or PE,
however, can do nothing but help everyone.  The contribution of expert
knowledge to the pe.cust group materially improves customer satisfaction
and loyalty.  And, given the wide dissemination of opinion and information
on the worldwide Usenet, this improvement in PE customer satisfaction
will eventually become known in wider circles on the net.

But knowledge of PE hardware, Edition VII internals (and eventually even
XELOS internals) is not limited to TWG and PE.  Participants such as
Axel, Carl Swail, Dave Sherman, and Brent Laminack together have most if
not all of the information available to PE.  Collectively we may well
know more than PE about Edition VII.  And the more PE sites that become
active in this group, the more knowledge we can tap.  I am appending
a list of sites which I believe are running Unix on PE machines but which
have not yet (to my knowledge) participated in pe.cust discussions.  Perhaps
they do not have uucp running, or are not on Usenet, or do not know about
or receive pe.cust news, or have not yet had any reason to post to the
group.  Several of these sites have source and hence tend to have better
information.  If possible, we should attempt to get all of these sites
connected to and participating in the pe.cust group.

	SITE NAME  (possible net address)			machine
        =============================================		=======
	California State University at Sacramento		3220
	DCIEM decvax!utzoo!dciem!martin				3242
	Ecole Nationale Superieure des Mines de Paris		 ??
	General Instrument, Satellite Systems (Toronto)		 ??
	Hughes Aircraft (Fullerton, CA)				3240
	Lawrence Livermore National Labs			3230
	Lousiana State University (LSUee!kev ??)		3220
	Melbourne University (decvax!mulga!prl ?)		 ??
	Monmouth College (petsd!moncol!john)			3220
	Randolph Macon College					3205
	Rice University						3220
	Singer (Santa Clara)					several
	UC Berkeley						3230
	University of Chicago {pesnta,ihnp4}!crsp!alan		3210
	University of Hawaii at Manoa				3220
	University of Texas					8/32
	Vanderbuilt University (ucbvax!jjg%vanderbuilt.csnet)	3220

						Steve Burbeck
						Linus Pauling Institute

earlw@pesnta.UUCP (Earl Wallace ) (03/01/85)

I am trying to make pesnta the one-stop mail center for all Perkin-Elmer
Customers so its easy to make site to site contact without having to go thru
several "hops".  Mail and the small number of pe.* newsgroups should not be
a real cost concern for P-E.  If necessary, I will pull back on the long 
distance news feeds in favor of the pe news feeds.   I have a general uucp 
login for new sites to do their initial uucp connections to pesnta and after 
they feel the connection is ok, I will give them their own uucp login.  

Uucp login information:

	Phone:	(408) 727-5577
	Login:	upeuucp
	Passwd:	gateway

Please give this number only to Perkin-Elmer Customer sites.  We are in the
process of acquiring a couple Hayes SmartModem 2400's which will be a big
help in the long distance runs.  Anyone with the ability to run 2400 baud,
please let me know.

Steve, I will try to conntact the sites you listed in your article.

Current Status of Sites (Feb 28, 1985):

	csusac	
		John Clevenger  (pesnta!csusac!clevengr)
		California State University at Sacramento		

		I put an entry in my sys file to send pe.cust.* news articles
		to John via mail; he doesn't have news running.

	okstate
		Mark Vasoll (pesnta!okstate!vasoll)
		Oklahoma State University

		Mark uses notefiles; pesnta sends him the pe.cust.* newsgroups

  	moncol	
		John Ruschmeyer (petsd!moncol!john)
		Monmouth College Computer Center

		Just connected tonight,  I don't know if John was receiving
		the pe.cust.* newsgroups before (from petsd), but I am
		sending them now.  I hope he has rnews....

  	fba	
		Rick Holliday (pesnta!itm!fba!rick)
		First Baptist, Atlanta

		Just sent a request for connection message.

  	per	
		Tim Pointing (pesnta!nrcaero!dciem!per!tim)
		Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine

		Just sent a request for connection message.

  	mulga
		Robert Elz (pesnta!ihnp4!decvax!mulga!kre)
		Melbourne University, Dept. of Comp. Sci. (Australia)

		Just sent a request for connection message.

  	prcrs
		Joel C. McClung (pesnta!nrcaero!prcrs!joel)
		Planning Research Corporation, Realty Systems Division

		Just sent a request for connection message.
-- 
Earl Wallace
UUCP:   ..!{ihnp4, ucbvax!hplabs, ucbvax!twg}!pesnta!earlw
PHONE:	(408) 727-5540 x230
USMAIL:	Perkin-Elmer Corp., Santa Clara, Calif. 95054