nm34@sdcc12.UUCP (nm34) (04/11/85)
As an avid Dead fan for going on 15 years now, and as a sometimes political activist, I have always been disappointed with the apolitical nature of the Dead and their songs. I have felt that the Deads lyrics and activities were an attempt to promote positive asspects of American culture but these attempts fell short becouse of their distannce from the political arena. It has onlybeen lately that I have learned that they have been active in a moderate way. I have found out that they have been doing benefit concerts for what I consider worthy causes for going back to the begining. Forgetting the concerts for the Hells Angels ( a group that I do not consider a positive political force) they have done concerts for Angela Davis and the Black Panthers (both with poor P.R. but positive and potent forces in their time) for Tom Hayden and anti-nuclear groups. Now we are finding political messages in their song. I should have said blatent political messages, I believe that their lyrics have always been political in a positive sence all along, but on a alegorical level. One of their latest songs, "Throwing Stones" is and obvious anti-nuclear war song. I am happy to see it. - Andy Bindman P.S. Only three days to two glorious nights at Irvine. "Singing ashes, ashes all fall down..." From postnews Wed Apr 10 07:58:33 1985 Subject: Re: Reading between the grooves Newsgroups: net.music References: <9690@brl-tgr.ARPA> <529@spp2.UUCP> I dont know if anyone has mentioned Dave Bromberg's album "Bandit in a Bathing Suit" where the last grooves of the record end with an infinitely long ode to Debbie Boone and Tod Rundgren(sp?) and other pop wonders of our age. Andy Bindman . From postnews Wed Apr 10 11:54:36 1985 Subject: Re: DEADHEADS ETC> Newsgroups: net.music > > > > Actually, when I want an example of a snide, rude, intolerrant net article, > > I look for one signed "Rich Rosen". [NO ;-)] [DON STEIN] > > Your intolerance and double standards smell pretty bad. I don't need your > lame attempts at abuse. > > Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr Ah, love. What a spat. We on the net have no use for either of your macho and witty attempts at cutting eachother down. Why not just have a duel and get it over with. Maybe you'd both get lucky and we all would be winners. - Andrew Bindman
cliff@unmvax.UUCP (04/14/85)
> Forgetting the concerts for the Hells > Angels ( a group that I do not consider a positive political force) they > have done concerts for ... Perhaps the Hell's Angels aren't a positive political force (I consider them a social group or fraternal ogranization), but the benefit concerts were to raise money for a political problem the HA were having at the time. It became Politically Correct to say bad things about Hell's Angels members, much like it is PC to be part of Reagan's "War on Drugs." This led to all sorts of early 70's government b.s. (remember what Nixon was doing to the country in general). Among other things the then current HA leader was arrested and tossed in jail on trumped up charges. I believe much of the money went to his legal defense. Check out the movie "Hell's Angels Forever" for a brief explanation as well as a few shots of Jerry and Friends playing and talking ~1974. Don't take this paragraph as an attempt to justify my "non-political dead" stance, I just thought I would mention "Hell's Angels Forever." On another note, I received this letter in the mail the other day: Subject: Re: Are they political? In-Reply-To: your article <771@unmvax.UUCP> I have have always thought of the dead as very much non-political. In fact, the concept of ego death which pervades their early material is the antithisis of political statement. I suppose that this holds less truth these days in light of Jerry's recent bust and Bobby's IZOD shirts. See what happens when you give up hallucinagens? :- I guess there is general agreement that the band started out quite less political then it is now and that even now they are not anywhere near as political as say Joan Baez in the woodstock days. Back to the days of early dead: It's fun listening to a tape of 2-14-68 with the full Alligator that was editted to fit on "Anthem of the Sun." At one point in the background someone (Phil?) is singing "Burn down the Carousel and the Avalon..." Sounded like a fun time for all. Who else would like to see a good chaotic Alligator at a future show? They knocked out a couple of acoustic gators in '80, but I'd love to see an electric feedback soaked alligator (maybe even with Matt Kelly harping away). --Cliff