[net.sf-lovers] Is Larry Niven the SubGenius?

nathan@orstcs.UUCP (nathan) (01/26/86)

I bought Niven and Pournelle's "Footfall" awhile back, and
enjoyed it a lot.  But that's not what this posting is about.

On the book's cover illustration, to the lower right of the Snout,
the image of BOB appears on a small scrap of paper.  This 
Bob character is the symbol and nonexistant founder of the
"Church of the SubGenius". Something about the Church appeared
here some years back.  Could this mean that Niven, Pournelle, or
the cover artist is somehow involved in the "cult"?

For those who missed the SubGenius material, the Church is a 
profit-making corporation, offering religion for those
willing to pay to be told what to think.  Church members revere
a disembodied head (smoking a pipe) named Bob, whose motto
(if I recall correctly) is "Slack off".  Anyway, this sounds
to me a lot like Niven's kind of goofiness.

If anyone has up-to-date or inside information on the Church of
the SubGenius, I'd be thrilled to see it.

Nathan C. Myers
{tektronix|hp-pcd}!orstcs!nathan | nathan@oregon-state

maa@oasys.UUCP (01/31/86)

<munch, munch, munch>

> If anyone has up-to-date or inside information on the Church of
> the SubGenius, I'd be thrilled to see it.

I found the following on the downtown Boulder mall last summer and have had
it posted on my cube wall since.  [With the exception of the first line
which is in large bold type,  the rest is reproduced as accurately as I could
render it.]


          Make Insanity Work For You.....

ARE    YOU    A    SCREWED-UP    SUBURBANITE    WITH    SEX,DRUG,OR
SOCIAL   PROBLEMS?WELL,The   Subgenius   Foundation   MAY   NOT   HELP
MUCH,BUT  IT  WILL  MAKE  "u""proud"TO  BE  INSANE. . .
   Most  Religions  Have  Had  The'grins'Hammered  Out  Of  Them  By
Easily-Duped  Fanatics.The  Church  Of  The  Subgenius  Is  A  Bombardment
Of  Morbid  Yuks. . .     The  Last  Holymen  In  America  Today.
   YES-  You  May  Have  Snapped  Already  From  The  Information  Disease
Of  The  TV  Age.Root  Out  Your  False  Programming  And  Mentally  Bash
It  To  HELL!    For  MoreJust  Send  $1 For  DETAILS  to :
                     The  Church  Of  The  Subgenius
                           P. O.Box  140306
                         DALLAS,TX        75214


If this is Niven's creation, he's got a truly bizarre sense of humor.

(And no, I didn't send them my dollar.)

donn@oracle.UUCP (Kevin Donn) (02/04/86)

> > If anyone has up-to-date or inside information on the Church of
> > the SubGenius, I'd be thrilled to see it.






                      Praise "Bob"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Step right this way son...






     Is your maze all blind alleys?  Is your soft brain hardwired?
Are you always left clutching the cold chickenwire mother?  Is there not
nearly enough of some certain 'something' in your life?  Sex?  Money?  Great
old movies on T.V.?  Imported beer?  Power over others?  ALL OF THE ABOVE???
     The SubGenius Foundation has a name for that nameless something.
SLACK.  Yes, SLACK!  SLACK, the perfect IS-ness!  SLACK, that state where
you need nothing because you have it all ready!  Sound good?  You bet!
     My friend, for only one dollar, less than the price of a pack of
cigarettes, you can be on your way to experiencing all the good drugs,
weird sex, bizzare prophesies, twisted rituals and riproaring fun you can 
handle and much more!  YES, you can still get in on the ground floor of
the SLACK goldmine!
     Furthermore, you have to give up less of your mind than required by
any other strange cult, and at only a fraction of the cost!  But wait, there's
even more!  For a mere twenty dollars you can join the clergy of The Church
of the SubGenius, you can be a minister and have your own flock of mindless
teenage followers to do your bidding!
    All this is made possible through the great prophet J.R. "Bob" Dobbs.
"Bob" will free you from the petty constraints of so called "civilization".
"Bob" will show you how to beat the system.  "Bob" will open your eyes to
great conspiracy.  "Bob" will answer any question.  "Bob" will bring SLACK
without guilt because you will pay for it with no strings attached!
     Why don't YOU get in on the ground floor of the world's fastest
growing religion while the rates are still low.  No time to waste, THE
WORLD ENDS TOMORROW AND YOU MAY DIE!

    "Researching the Public's Fear of the Unknown Since 1953!"
	       The Church of the SubGenius
	       P.O. Box 140306
	       Dallas, TX 75214