[net.music.gdead] Twenty Years So Far

rcd@opus.UUCP (Dick Dunn) (06/18/85)

The "theme" of the twentieth anniversary shows at the Greek Theatre in
Berkeley was "Twenty Years So Far".  Throughout, the message was that the
Grateful Dead are marking a milestone and celebrating, but they're nowhere
near ready to hang it up.  If anything, it was a renewal and a rebirth.

Jim Mayfield has posted songlists and some comments, so I'll avoid that and
just try to give some of my random observations to give you a feel for the
shows.

The showtimes were offset--Friday, June 14 started at 7 PM, Saturday at 5,
Sunday at 3.  Interesting variety of conditions.  Sunday would potentially
have been blazingly hot, but that the fog started to come in early in the
second set (obligingly, to add some atmosphere for "Looks Like Rain").

Of the three shows, almost everyone that I talked to thought that the first
two were a lot better than the third--Sunday was a good show and had some
interesting material, but the magic never really happened.  Saturday was
generally best liked; several people said it was the best show they'd ever
seen.

Overall, it seems that the Dead are reaching back for older songs--some of
their own as well as some rock standards--to add to their repertoire.  The
Greek shows included the Derek & the Dominoes song "Keep on Growing",
"Smokestack Lightning", "Stagger Lee", Dylan's "She's an Artist" (?),
"Gimme Some Loving", "Midnight Hour", "Mississippi Half-Step Uptown
Toodleoo" (I've probably scrambled that one), "Lovelight", and more of
"The Other One" than I've heard in the years I've seen the Dead.  "Lost
Sailor"/"Saint of Circumstance" were there and solid.  Comments on these:

	"Keep on Growing" is yet another song for the Phil/Brent duo.  The
	audience loved it; I think that they've hit on something with Phil
	and Brent doing some of the old hard rock.

	"Smokestack Lightning" surprised everyone.  I haven't talked to
	anyone who remembers them doing this in recent years.  Bobby sang
	it, of course.  It seems as if he might be ready to take some
	more chances on material which Pigpen would have done in the past.

	"Stagger Lee", "Midnight Hour", "...Toodleoo", and even "Lovelight"
	were not complete surprises; they're not from the distant past but
	they have only made rare appearances.

	"Gimme Some Loving" sounds real solid now; I think it could become
	a staple.  The requirements for particular instrumental parts and
	vocal characters are a fine match to the Dead's talent.

	The additional pieces of "The Other One" fit a little roughly with
	the standard middle section ("Spanish lady"..."Cowboy Neal").  I
	think it will round out the piece nicely but it needs practice.
	[I'd better straighten out titles here:  What we tend to call "The
	Other One", because of the way it's labeled on the skull&roses
	album, is actually titled "Cryptical Envelopment" in the songbook.
	The material that was added in the Sunday show is what is actually
	titled "The Other One" in the songbook, although it was played
	wrapped around the "Cryptical Envelopment" section.]

	Sailor/Saint seemed to disappear a few years ago.  I heard of it
	being played once about a year ago (at Lost Wages, perhaps?) and it
	didn't go well.  Saturday's version was hot; I hope it's back to
	stay for a while.

There was a Jerry song that I haven't heard before.  I don't know whether
it's a new song or a traditional folk song--part of the lyrics are "Comes a
time when a blind man takes your hand and says `Don't you see?'"  Anybody
out there have any info on this one?

There were a few downs to the shows...Mickey had some sort of equipment
problems during percussion time (no, I will not call it "the drum solo"
'cause it's not a solo and not just drums...:-) and got into some sort of
hassle with the backstage help--we couldn't really tell what the problem
was, except for seeing what looked like a large aluminum drumstick bent
almost 90 degrees.  He turned some of his anger toward the music--the Beam
came out with some impressive sound that day.

The sound was good on Friday and excellent on Saturday...until the second
encore (a rare event).  This was U.S. Blues, and it was played so
incredibly loudly that both the equipment and people's ears suffered real
distortion problems.  I can't imagine what the hell the idea was.  I like
music loud, but there's no excuse in the world for pushing it to a painful
level.  (One of the things I've always appreciated about the Dead is that
they DON'T try to prove that they can make your ears bleed.)  Sunday the
sound was almost as loud as Saturday's encore, and where we were sitting it
sounded distorted--like a dying speaker or a clipping amp.  Due to the
extra volume and residual irritation/ringing in my ears from the night
before, I heard most of Sunday's show with tissue stuffed in my ears.  I'd
like to hear from other people about this--did you also have problems with
Sunday's sound?  Where were you sitting?

There were some hassles with the police and security folk, as some netters
had warned.  I watched a little routine on Sunday where someone got hassled
for spraying water on the crowd.  Of course, this is standard practice for
an outdoor show; it's just a nice thing to do for people to help them stay
cool.  The problem was that the squirter caught a cop with the water and
the cop took offense--to the point of taking her name and confiscating the
water bottle (allegedly to test its contents for acid, if you can believe
such a crock of shit!).  Anyway, she somehow managed to get to one of the
REAL security people working the concert.  It had a happy ending--she got
her water bottle back (with an apology) and the cop was asked to leave.
I'm glad it worked out, but it pisses me off to think that at an event
where you've got thousands of people who are there to have a good time--
and with a Grateful Dead concert there's rarely even any potential for real
problems--you get cops assigned to the show who don't know their asses from
a hole in the ground when it comes to crowd control, and they go around
causing trouble.  I KNOW it's not that hard to find good cops; I've seen
lots of them that can deal smoothly with trouble, keep a low profile, and
even be friendly with people and enjoy the show...why do they even hire
someone with an ego-trip problem, let alone assign him to such an event.
(Rant!  Rage!...sorry)

The interplay of people on the stage was much more obvious to me--it seems
that playing "at home" lets the band and the crew loosen up a little.  I
noticed that the guy who works the board on stage (don't know his name;
help out there?) bopped over to Brent at the start of Cassidy and sort of
talked/sang to/for him--he was emotionally very much into it.  (Perhaps
he's one who knew Cassidy very well?)

Three hot-air balloons were launched during the second Sunday set--some
green/orange imagery that I missed (but green/orange are Prankster colors),
a lightning-bolt pattern and a huge red rose on white.

After the Friday and Saturday shows, staff at the exit had little
half-page handouts for the crowd.  One side has the theme picture for
"Twenty Years so Far"--a Minuteman-in-front-of-flag sort of picture with
the Minuteman a skeleton and the musket replaced by a guitar.  The other
side of the handout had some verse written to fit with various standard
numbers.  (Example:  "Just like Grandma Moses / Just like Auld Lang
Syne...")  There are a couple of comments that make the message for 20
years completely clear--

	"Thanks for 20 years of being
	an audience which is the envy
	of every other rock and roll band alive."

and best of all--

	"Long as you keep coming
	You got a band."
-- 
Dick Dunn	{hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd		(303)444-5710 x3086
   ...I'm not cynical - just experienced.

woods@hao.UUCP (Greg Woods) (06/18/85)

  I'd like to extend thanks to Dick for posting an excellent personalized
review of the recent Greek shows. Wish I could have been there, but I've
chosen to spend my money and vacation time on other things the past few
months (more on that later, in another newsgroup....)

> Overall, it seems that the Dead are reaching back for older songs--some of
> their own as well as some rock standards--to add to their repertoire.  The
> Greek shows included the Derek & the Dominoes song "Keep on Growing",
> "Smokestack Lightning", "Stagger Lee", Dylan's "She's an Artist" (?),
> "Gimme Some Loving", "Midnight Hour", "Mississippi Half-Step Uptown
> Toodleoo" (I've probably scrambled that one), "Lovelight", and more of
> "The Other One" than I've heard in the years I've seen the Dead. 

   Glad to hear it! That Derek & the Dominoes song has always been one of
my favorites. I hope I get to hear it at the Rocks, since those
are probably the only Dead shows I'll be able to make this year. I've posted
this before here, but it's obviously been forgotten: the Dylan song referred
to is entitled "She Belongs to Me" and is from the "Bringing It All Back Home"
album (which also contains other classics like "Maggie's Farm" and one of
Jerry's favorites, "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue").

> There was a Jerry song that I haven't heard before.  I don't know whether
> it's a new song or a traditional folk song--part of the lyrics are "Comes a
> time when a blind man takes your hand and says `Don't you see?'"  Anybody
> out there have any info on this one?

  Yes. This one is called "Comes a Time" and appears on Jerry's solo album
"Reflections". 

  Thanks for the great review, Dick. When are the tapes going to be available
for us poor working slobs who couldn't make the shows? :-)

"I got an empty cup, that only love can fill".

--Greg
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mayfield@ucbvax.ARPA (Jim Mayfield) (06/20/85)

> 
> 	"Smokestack Lightning" surprised everyone.  I haven't talked to
> 	anyone who remembers them doing this in recent years.  Bobby sang
> 	it, of course.  It seems as if he might be ready to take some
> 	more chances on material which Pigpen would have done in the past.

They played Smokestack at the Berkeley Community Theater last year
(2 Nov 1984 -- currently at the top of my wish list; anybody wanna
trade?), as well as a couple of other times on the east coast.

> There was a Jerry song that I haven't heard before.  I don't know whether
> it's a new song or a traditional folk song--part of the lyrics are "Comes a
> time when a blind man takes your hand and says `Don't you see?'"  Anybody
> out there have any info on this one?

It's called, appropriately enough, "Comes A Time."  I don't think they've
played it since '80.  It's on Jerry's "Reflections" album.  The chorus goes:

	Comes a time when the blind man takes your hand
	Says "Don't you see?  Gotta make it somehow
	On the dreams you still believe
	Don't give it up.  You've got an empty cup
	Only love can fill.  Only love can fill."

What the heck, here are the verses:

	Been walking all morning; went walking all night.
	Can't see much difference between the dark and light
	I feel the wind, and I taste the rain
	Never in my mind to cause so much pain

	<chorus>

	From day to day, just letting it ride
	You get so far away from how it feels inside
	You can't let go cause you're afraid to fall
	But the day may come when you can't feel at all

	<chorus>

> ........................................................... Due to the
> extra volume and residual irritation/ringing in my ears from the night
> before, I heard most of Sunday's show with tissue stuffed in my ears.  I'd
> like to hear from other people about this--did you also have problems with
> Sunday's sound?  Where were you sitting?

They certainly played louder on Sunday than the previous two days.  I as
usual had cotton in my ears during all three shows.  Cries of wimp abound,
but I don't like ringing ears.  I highly recommend it as part of the
standard concert kit.  If you don't like what it does to the highs,
try placing some in the lower part of your ear so as to only partially
cover your "earhole" (is there a technical name for earhole?).  Another
thing to try is sticking your fingers in your ears at the very end of
songs, when the band tends to play its loudest, and the audience is
screaming its head off as well.  Not only does this filter out the
very loudest noises, but usually I find that I can hear what they're
playing better that way.

						- Jim Mayfield

jjm@inmet.UUCP (06/20/85)

 



   smokestack lightning was played in Worchester Oct 9 (? Second night) this     
   past fall (84), and again this spring ... (where...?) uh, i'm thinking


   ...ahem, well......  Second night Nassau 3/27?/85 after Truckin' to open

   the show Matthew Kelly (Kingfish fame) came out and did a Rockin' 

   Smokestack harmonica !! quite killer.

       The one in Worchester was the first in ten or so years, so my

       friend tells me.  

       And ...                    


       i just remembered ...

       Syracuse, NY  carrier dome  -- last show fall tour 84 ...

       another smokestack....



       Thought y'ud like t'know.


       

      'there's a dragon with matches, thats loose on the town,

       it'll take a pail of water just to cool him down..'





       pasta 
       fazool
			 josepi








			 NOSECONES

faunt@hplabs.UUCP (Doug Faunt) (06/22/85)

> had warned.  I watched a little routine on Sunday where someone got hassled
> for spraying water on the crowd.  Of course, this is standard practice for
> an outdoor show; it's just a nice thing to do for people to help them stay
> cool.  The problem was that the squirter caught a cop with the water and
> the cop took offense--to the point of taking her name and confiscating the
> water bottle (allegedly to test its contents for acid, if you can believe
> such a crock of shit!).  Anyway, she somehow managed to get to one of the

I'm going to be a curmudgeon here for a minute: People SHOULD be more
discriminating about who and where they squirt with water sprays!!!
I wear glasses and like to read, and don't like looking out through
water-spots because someone sprayed me directly in the face, and I don't
like being unable to read because if I have a book open it's going to
get wet.  A light mist among friends is fine, but streams of water at
random bystanders is unnecessary.
I was at the Saturday show, and had to ask three different people to
refrain from squirting me and my book.  This is unpleasant for me and for
them, no matter how well it's done.

I also was flabbergasted to be leaving a show that started at (nominally)
5:00 PM, with two encores, BEFORE IT WAS DARK.
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jdb@qubix.UUCP (Jeff Bulf) (06/25/85)

> There was a Jerry song that I haven't heard before.  I don't know whether
> it's a new song or a traditional folk song--part of the lyrics are "Comes a
> time when a blind man takes your hand and says `Don't you see?'"  Anybody
> out there have any info on this one?

    Well, some information, anyway. _Comes A Time_ is on Jerry's album
"Reflections", which also has _Mission in the Rain_. Just a studio album,
and as usual doesn't begin to do the band justice. Nonetheless it is probably
the best of the lot. One interesting feature is the personnel: about half
the songs are done with Jerry Garcia Band personnel and the other half
with Grateful Dead personnel. It is fun to tell the difference by ear.

    cheers,
-- 
	Dr Memory
	...{amd,cbosgd,ihnp4}!qubix!jdb