jj@alice.UUCP (09/19/86)
First, let me finish my biscuit, I am going to bloody well FLAME, and I need help with my shyness! Two questions: 1) As other writers have asked, why should wobegonians have to deal with the likes of the rich part of the net, and all the brash, mean, thrashing clamor that abounds elsewhere? Why should the one genteel group of the net be eliminated? Is it perhaps that the mere gentility threatens the brash, rude millions? 2) Net.music.gdead is, while a bit less genteel, usually laid-back and mostly pleasant. It serves much the same purpose as net.wobegon, so why not remove it as well, and eliminate ALL type 'B's from the net? After all, it is written -- the meek will inheret the earth, but who will want it? Perhaps the net is intended only for hurried, aggressive, antagonistic type 'A's like the folks who would remove wobegon. If so, that should be stated in the charter. How about a line to the effect: "Politeness, kind behavior, and meaningful, mutually satisfying discussion are not appropriate for USENET. It is considered improprietous to show any propriety in one's postings. It is understood that net.flame was removed because it was desired that all groups be flame-bearing. Such kind behavior as was evidenced in the justifiably removed net.wobegon will NOT be tolerated." (Lest we forget, it was JJ himself who was the prime agent and instigator of the partial demise of net.flame. At this time, JJ thinks he was snookered. Flame yet lives, but wobegon will die. While this is clearly a victory for anal-yuppie virtrue, it seems to forget one of the prime reasons for netnews, namely the weal of nutnoise's readers.) Seriously, flame was a huge volume group that was out of control. Even cbosgd appears to continue to carry it. Wobegon was small, quiet, happy, and offended no one, other than those whose sense of order cannot tolerate a small oasis of happiness in a sea of discontent. I think that the mere suggestion of wobegon's removal shows the depth of administrator unhappiness, and perhaps a desire that the net become so unpleasant that it will go away forever. Well, Watson, it's merely a symptom, and not the disease itself. -- GODS OF NETNEWS BEWARE, THE TEDDY BEARS WILL HAVE THEIR PICNIC! "Hear the Tolling of the Bells, Iron Bells" (Ask not for whom the bell tolls, the bell tolls for news.) (ihnp4;allegra;research)!alice!jj
credmond@watmath.UUCP (Chris Redmond) (09/19/86)
> >Perhaps the net is intended only for hurried, aggressive, antagonistic >type 'A's like the folks who would remove wobegon. If so, that should >be stated in the charter. How about a line to the effect: > "Politeness, kind behavior, and meaningful, mutually satisfying >discussion are not appropriate for USENET. It is considered improprietous >to show any propriety in one's postings. It is understood that net.flame >was removed because it was desired that all groups be flame-bearing. >Such kind behavior as was evidenced in the justifiably removed net.wobegon >will NOT be tolerated." > For crying out loud, will somebody volunteer to start a mailing list, instead of just lamenting about the demise of the net group? For a gang with this low a level of discussion, a mailing list would be better, anyway.
kludge@gitpyr.UUCP (Scott Dorsey) (10/03/86)
In article <6088@alice.uUCp> jj@alice.UUCP writes: >Seriously, flame was a huge volume group that was out of control. >Even cbosgd appears to continue to carry it. Wobegon was small, >quiet, happy, and offended no one, other than those whose sense of >order cannot tolerate a small oasis of happiness in a sea of discontent. I am forced to speak up. Many of my friends, two shy to reply to your message, read this newsgroup exclusively, and are very upset that news has started appearing here. They would prefer that this newsgroup go back to the "*** 0 messgaes in Net.Wobegon" that it once was. -- ------- Disclaimer: Everything I say is probably a trademark of someone. But don't worry, I probably don't know what I'm talking about. Scott Dorsey " If value corrupts kaptain_kludge then absolute value corrupts absolutely" ICS Programming Lab (Where old terminals go to die), (hallway outside) Rich 110, Georgia Institute of Technology, Box 36681, Atlanta, Georgia 30332 ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!gitpyr!kludge