[net.sf-lovers] Dr. Who

mhauck (10/26/82)

To Gregg Wolff:
Thank you for the Dr. Who story guide.  My husband has been looking for
something like it.  My brother-in-law loved it. If you have anything else
on The Doctor please post it.  
	A Doctor Who fan

honton (12/05/82)

  My sister recently became a Dr. Who fan and wants to know where she
might get a hold of posters of the characters, etc.

  Please send me any pointers to such items.  Also, Dr. Who fans, can
you send your favorite plot, trivia, history etc?

				   thanks,
					chas
					( ..decvax!cwruecmp!honton)

gba (12/13/82)

I would appreciate help in finding where Dr. Who items such as
a hat and scarf can be purchased in the Chicago area.  Please
reply by direct mail.  Thanks.

George Adams
pur-ee!gba

WADA@SANDIA.ARPA (06/20/83)

From:  Michi Wada <WADA@SANDIA.ARPA>

     According to my main source of Dr. Who information the first season 
with Peter Davison as the Doctor was being shown on PBS in Miami.  North 
Carolina's PBS station is now showing Dr. Who episodes with Jon Pertwee 
(Doctor #3) as the Doctor.  Chicago is also showing the Dr. Who stories 
with Jon Pertwee as the Doctor, but has edited them into movie versions.

     The second season of Davison consisted of the following stories, each 
one consisting of 4 parts except the last one which had only 2 parts to it.
Right now I have only the titles on hand.  More details to follow when I 
can remember to write it all down.
	SECOND SEASON (DAVISON)
		Arc of Infinity
		Snakedance
		Mawdryn Undead
		Terminus
		Enlightenment
		King's Demons
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kah120@ihuxn.UUCP (07/07/83)

The other day I saw a commercial on WFLD (Chicago) for
a Whovian Tour.  The number that was given for information
was 1-800-call who.  I tried calling this number but it was 
always busy.  Can anyone give me any insight to just what this
tour is about.  I myself have never heard of it before so any
information that can be offered is appreciated.  Also, I 
remember reading awhile back about the  availability of TARDIS
banks at a bookstore somewhere in LONDON.  Well if that is what
you are after, I spotted a few at Paradise Books in Naperville, IL.
They have a few in stock along with a fair collection of books
and albums.  Their stock is usually small and these items appear
to go fast.
			Ken Heitke

jgd@ih1ap.UUCP (09/12/83)

  

        This is my first attempt at posting news.
        
        I am a Dr.Who finatic and would like to read more articles about the t.v. program. For instance, information from Dr. Who 
Monthly  which I don't have the opportunity to read.  Or possibly some explanations about myterious scenes which are left unexplained.  Hope this xmission works.

WADA@SANDIA.ARPA (12/09/83)

From:  Michi Wada <WADA@SANDIA.ARPA>

   Some questions with regards to the special that have not yet been asked:
1) Can anybody explain how the second Doctor knew that Jamie and Zoe should have
no memory of him and the Brigadier?  Jamie's and Zoe's memories of their 
adventures with the Doctor were taken away from them by the Time Lords in the 
same story where the second Doctor was standing trial.  The result of the trial 
was that he underwent a forced regeneration and was exiled to earth.  The second
Doctor should have no knowledge that Jamie's and Zoe's memories of him did not 
exist because that should have been in his future.

2) Where was Chameleon(sp?)?  Chameleon became one of the Doctor's companions 
at the end of Davison's second season (the last story shown in England before 
the special was shown).  Where was he(it) when all this occurred?  For anybody 
wondering Chameleon is a shape changing android.

				Michi Wada
				Sandia National Laboratories
				Albuquerque, N.M.
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sonia%aids-unix@sri-unix.UUCP (01/03/84)

From:  Sonia Schwartzberg <sonia@aids-unix>

	On New Year's Eve I saw my first Dr. Who series, and I have only
one question:  How does the lady keep that hat from falling off of her
head??????

LS.SRB%EE@sri-unix.UUCP (03/10/84)

From:  "Stephen R. Balzac" <LS.SRB@EE>

	Having just seen the Five Doctors, I have one question:  Which
is which?  I know Baker and Davison, but I don't know who played the
old man, the short one who looks vaguely like Moe Howard, and the
fancy one with white hair.  Would someone in possession of such
information care to pass it on?  Thanks.  
	By the way, I recall reading some while back that there was a
Dr. Who archive on line somewhere.  Could someone tell me where I can
find it?  Thanks.

LS.SRB%EE@sri-unix.UUCP (03/27/84)

From:  "Stephen R. Balzac" <LS.SRB@EE>

	I recall reading in a previous issue sometime ago that there
exists a Dr. Who archive on some net site, accessable through
anonymous ftp.  Anyone happen to know where it is, if it still exists?

DBarker@HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA (06/18/84)

From:   Deryk Barker <DBarker@HIS-PHOENIX-MULTICS.ARPA>


Jelly babies are really what they sound like - they are sweets about an
inch long made from jelly and made in a roughly humanoid shape.  They
are very common in the UK and generally come in a mixture of the
following colours: Red, Green, Yellow and Black.
          deryk.

@RUTGERS.ARPA:andy_leslie%perch.DEC@decwrl.ARPA (02/07/85)

From: andy_leslie%perch.DEC@decwrl.ARPA  (Don Quixote    ^    )

>From: ihlpg!jcgowl@topaz (r. gowland)
>Subject: Re: Whoites vs Trekies
>Date: 1 Feb 85 16:09:37 GMT
> 
>Part of the reason why the Dr. Who show doesn't seem to have such a
>big following in the UK is that it is made for and aimed at children
>in the age-group from 5 to 12. It is broadcast in prime childrens'
>viewing timeslots, usually 5pm Saturday with sometimes repeats at
>6pm on a Monday. It is acknowledged by many that the programme is
>for kids, but loved by adults. I *like* (as opposed to *love*) it,
>but prefer Star Trek which comes at us in 50 minutes complete
>programmes. Dr. Who (as Richard Jeffreys probably pointed out) is
>shown over 4, 5 or 6 weeks at 25 minutes per episode.  ihlpg!jcgowl
>Roger R. Gowland at Indian Hill (temporarily)


	Tom Baker was interviewed on the BBC at a US convention and what he 
said (more or less) was that the Brits don't quite go over the top in the way 
that American fans do. He also said he failed to understand the fuss, pretty 
ordinairy part really, but at least it got him free US trips.

The conventionite, be (s)he 'Trekkie' or 'Whoite' is quintissentially american 
and the antics at these confirm many Brits fears about american sanity :-)
 
Over the years Dr Who has been shown in several formats. For many years this 
was Saturday night at some time between 5 and 6:30 pm, episode lengths varying 
from 20 to 45 minutes. Longest story in terms of episodes was probably 'Daleks 
invade the earth' which was screened in the mid-sixties and lasted about 13 
episodes. (Forgive an old memory if thats inexact)

A couple of years ago the format  became twice-weekly on weekday evenings at 
7:00 pm, length about 25 mins. Questions were asked in Parliament ( I kid you 
not ) about this shift in the schedules, eventually the furore died down on a 
promise of a resumption of normal timing. 

This year, Dr Who stories consist of 2 * 45 min episodes and it is back to 
Saturday evenings at 5pm-ish. The writing is much better than of late but the 
models of spaceports and suchlike are still in the 1950's papier mache' style.

(As well as the above, there have been compilations, whole stories told in 1 
hour 'specials', put in to the summer schedules)

It may well have been the original intention to appeal to children of 10 and 
under, but children under 100 seem to like it instead. 

I have watched every episode since 1962, either in serial or 
'special' mode. I would like to comment on the 'plots' debate. Dr Who plots 
have varied wildly over the years from the inane to the insane, from good to 
superlative. Some of the best stuff I have seen for ages is in the current 
series. But several mainstays of the series have been changing. The Tardis has 
regained its chameleon ability, although screwed up ( a church organ in a 
scrap yard [?!] ) and the Doctor has actually gotten in a fight and beaten up 
a human opponent. He is far more agressive than days of yor. He has killed 
Cybermen and friendly characters have been killed. In recent times the worst 
that would have happened is that they would have caught a cold (with the 
notable exception of Adric).

	Indeed, I think that had all the old mainstays been left intact, Dr 
Who would have drifted into a shadow of its former self and been canned in 
short time.

	As to Star Trek, well, its very nice for a 17 year old series, still 
pretty much a macho-man yarn, some stories stick in the mind ( remember the 
demented singing of "I'll take you home again, Kathleen" over the ships tannoy 
episode?), others stick in the Mudd. 

It is important to remember that Star Trek suffered far fewer constraints than 
Dr Who ( the hero was allowed romance, for one ). AND IT FINISHED. It is 
always easier to forgive mistakes in the old than in the new.

forgive the rambling...

		Andy (<>^<>) Leslie

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@RUTGERS.ARPA:TIGQC356%CUNYVM.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA (02/13/85)

From: Mark F Rand  <TIGQC356%CUNYVM.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA>

Hello.. Here in the New York City area there are two channels showing
Dr. Who (channels  21 and 50). Channel 21 shows Dr. Who in 1/2 hour
episodes every weekday at 7pm. Channel 50 shows Dr. Who in entire
episodes once a week on Sat. 9pm- 10:30(unless interrupted by a beg-a-thon).
Dr. Who used to also be shown on channel 9 on Sat. mornings, but they kept
repeating the same 10 or 12 episodes over and over(for a year and a half).
(These episodes starred Tom Baker) Eventually they couldn't repeat anymore
so they replaced Dr. Who with wrestling(!!).

Channel 21 has gone thru the whole of Tom Baker and Peter Davidson now and
is now starting over from beginning of Tom Baker. Channel 50 has also gone
from Tom Baker thru Peter Davidson, but is now going to show the Pertwee
episodes starting this Saturday.(The only time I've seen Pertwee was in
the "5 Doctors" episode.)

This Saturday when I turned to 50 to see Dr. Who, I was instead shown
a show called "K9 and Company" with K9 and Sarah Jane Smith..
I have never seen (nor heard of) this show before..
Is this show still running?? Does the Dr. ever make a guest appearance??


See ya fellow SF fans!!
Mark Rand    (Tigqc356@Cunyvm)
(New York City  -  Queesn College)

guy@anasazi.UUCP (Guy Finney) (02/14/85)

> From: Mark F Rand  <TIGQC356%CUNYVM.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA>
> 
> This Saturday when I turned to 50 to see Dr. Who, I was instead shown
> a show called "K9 and Company" with K9 and Sarah Jane Smith..
> I have never seen (nor heard of) this show before..
> Is this show still running?? Does the Dr. ever make a guest appearance??

My "Dr. Who: A Celebration..." book reveals that "K9 & Co." was a pilot
for a proposed spinoff series which was never picked up.  Every wonder
why K9 showed up with Sarah in "The Five Doctors"?.  That's why.
-- 
Guy Finney
{decvax|ihnp4|hao}!noao!terak!anasazi!guy

mt528@uiucuxa.UUCP (02/18/85)

K9 & Company was indeed a pilot for a children's show, but due to low
 ratings,it never got more shows made.  It's still a novelty in that it's the
 only show to follow the "further adventures" of a companion, so it's sort
 of a Dr. Who staple (like the two movies).  No, the Dr. didn't show up in that
 show (so he didn't show up in the "series").
JNT says K9 will *never*, ever return to the set of Doctor Who.  He said:
 "Since we were the first show to introduce a cutesy robot dog, I figured
  we should be the first to get rid of one.  And, no, I will never bring back
  the mangy mechanical mutt.  Never."
He says, though, the the Sonic Screwdriver may make a comeback next season
 (next in England, that is).

ckuppe@spock.UUCP (Charles A. Kupperman '87 ) (02/19/85)

The episode to which you are referring is in fact, "The Dalek Master Plan."
It was a twelve parter with a 1 episode prequel that didn't feature the
Doctor.  

What do you mean it's regained its chameleon ability?
That had best not be permanent.  There was a huge letter writing campaign
last year against changing the familiar Police Box, which John Nathan-Turner
thought was better known than a real police box, and thus subverting British
history.  He finally promised it would never change!

Somehow, it'll break down again, I'm sure, and we'll have that old blue
box again...
Or else I'll commit suicide like the officers of the Australian Dr. Who
fan club...

@RUTGERS.ARPA:milne@uci-icse (03/16/85)

From: Alastair Milne <milne@uci-icse>


   I am just about willing to swear that the man's name is Peter DAVISON,
not DAVIDSON.  I have seen him in two other things: one an unmentionably 
silly episode of The Tomorrow People (so bad I mention it only for 
completeness' sake), and the other the very good part of Tristan Farnon 
in the TV series All Creatures Great and Small, adapted from James Herriot's 
semi-autobiographical books about his life as a veterinarian in Yorkshire 
during the 30's.  Not science-fiction at all, but wonderful stories
nevertheless.  Davison is very believable and sympathetic as Tristan.
Unfortunately I've had no chance to see him as the Doctor, because in our area
(Orange County, south of Los Angeles), they are only showing the Tom Baker
episodes: Logopolis, which ended with Baker regenerating into Davison, was 
followed immediately by Robot, which starts with Jon Pertwee
regenerating into Baker.  So I am still waiting for Davison.  

   By the way, anybody know of any relation between Tom Baker and Colin Baker?

				Alastair Milne
				(NOT the Director General of the BBC)

@RUTGERS.ARPA:KELNER@LL.ARPA (03/18/85)

From: <KELNER@LL.ARPA>

  An English friend of mine would like to add his 'tuppence' to the
discussion of DR. Who.
 I've included his message below:
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    I  was   prompted  to  write  to   the  Newsletter  by   the  recent
 correspondence about  the best/worst  etc.  of  Dr.  Who's  companions.
 Since I  have been  watching the  show since  it started  in the  early
 Sixties, I suppose I qualify as somewhat of a fanatic,  but here are my
 thoughts anyway.
 
    The  shows starring  the  first two  Doctors  (William Hartnell  and
 Patrick Troughton) have never been shown in the U.S.A., as far as I can
 tell,  so I won't try and drag out my fading memories of the companions
 of these Dr.s  - I'll confine my  suggestions to the companions  of Jon
 Pertwee, Tom Baker and Peter Davison.
 
 Most Useful to the Dr:- Leela
   The  combination  of  the  Dr's intelligence  with  her  cunning  and
 instincts was a formidable team.  She also seemed to be the only one in
 the show with enough sense to pick up  a weapon from a fallen enemy and
 use it.
 
 Most Likeable as a Person:- Jo Grant
   This is of course rather subjective,  but she always seemed to me the
 friendliest of all the companions.  Jon Pertwee's Dr.   seemed to think
 so too,  he's almost in tears at the  end of 'The Green Death' when she
 leaves him to run up the Amazon and pick mushrooms(?).  Surely this has
 to be the  saddest leave-taking of all,  with Pertwee  driving into the
 sunset with only his vintage car 'Bessie' left to talk to...
 
 Most Natural:- Sarah Jane Smith
   By this,  I  mean that she seemed  to have the same  reactions to the
 strange and dangerous events around her  as an ordinary Earthling might
 have.  Because of this she could take the part of the viewer, who could
 imagine him  or herself in  a similar  situation thinking or  doing the
 same thing.  She should also get a vote for longevity - I think she was
 the longest-serving companion, although I can't be sure.
 
 Nastiest:- Turlough
   No argument here,  this character was  thoroughly unpleasant - I kept
 hoping  he  would get  skewered  or  dismembered or  something  equally
 painful.   This  may be a  tribute to  the acting capabilities  of Mark
 Strickson,  but having a traitor in the Tardis was an experiment I hope
 the BBC will not repeat (assuming they continue the show - have you all
 written your letters of protest yet ?).
 
    Most of the others were quite capable in their own way, but the ones
 above really stand out in my mind.
 
    On a  separate topic,  what is  it about Peter Davison's  Dr.  that
 people seem  to dislike?   I've read  lots of comments about  the BBC's
 alleged mistake in hiring him,  but I thought he did a fairly good job.
 
 I suspect that a  lot of the problem is that many  people had only seen
 Tom Baker until then.  Tom served so long (and ably) in the role that I
 think viewers thought  any replacement had to  replicate his mannerisms
 to be a  convincing Dr Who - not  the case of course.   He  also had no
 really interesting companions, as you can see from my list above.   All
 in all, a bad rap, I think.
 
                               Mike Jordan
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  All I can add to this is:
 1) I have high hopes for Peri. I only saw her in one show though, so
      I'll have to wait and see.
 2) I think Peter Davison was very good. The first show was a bit weak,
      but he rapidly became quite good.
         Bob Kelner (KELNER at LL)
 

@RUTGERS.ARPA:RTaylor.9993iLONS@RADC-MULTICS.ARPA (03/19/85)

From: "     Roz     " <RTaylor@RADC-MULTICS.ARPA>

Alastair (Milne) is right...it IS Peter Davison rather than Davidson!
We (Central New york) had been in the Tom Baker loop for at least two
years...this year (last 6 months +/-) we have been treated to the Peter
Davison "movies".  The current membership drive for WCNY says they
(WCNY) have bought the Pertwee episodes for $25K (!), I am looking
forward to seeing those for the first time!
    It has taken me awhile to get used to Davison as the Doctor, but I
was always familiar with his Tristan character--which helped, I think.
My son still prefers Tom Baker, but since he is only 6 with a 1930
bedtime, he rarely gets to see the "All Creatures Great and Small"
stories.
                                  Roz

demillo@uwmacc.UUCP (Rob DeMillo) (03/28/85)

> ... and the other the very good part of Tristan Farnon 
> in the TV series All Creatures Great and Small, adapted from James Herriot's 
> semi-autobiographical books about his life as a veterinarian in Yorkshire 
> during the 30's.  Not science-fiction at all, but wonderful stories
> nevertheless.  Davison is very believable and sympathetic as Tristan.
> Unfortunately I've had no chance to see him as the Doctor, because in our area
> (Orange County, south of Los Angeles), they are only showing the Tom Baker
> episodes: Logopolis, which ended with Baker regenerating into Davison, was 
> followed immediately by Robot, which starts with Jon Pertwee
> regenerating into Baker.  So I am still waiting for Davison.  

I find Davison as the Doctor quite charming, as are the reset of the
Doctors. One point that you might find interesting: I heard
John Nathan-Turner (the current Dr. Who producer) say that he
wanted a younger Doctor to replace Baker. He was looking around
for another, when he saw Davison on "All Creatures..." he called him
up the next day, and the search was over....

>    By the way, anybody know of any relation between Tom Baker and Colin Baker?
> 
> 				Alastair Milne
> 				(NOT the Director General of the BBC)
 
On the same program where I saw J N-T say the above, I also heard
him say: "Nope, no connection at all...."

                    

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li63sfh@sdcc7.UUCP (Philip Kao) (04/23/85)

so boys and girls, it's trivia time
i got this letter from a potential roommate who is in love
with Dr. Who...bad sign????...who the ____ is Dr. Who?
please reply by email if possible, i mmay not read all of these
news groups often enough.

uucp   : ...!{ucbvax,ihnp4,noscvax}!sdcsvax!sdcc7!{li63sfh}
arpa   : sdcsvax!sdcc7!{li63sfh}@{Berkeley,Nosc}
CS-Net : (none)
Bit-Net: sdcsvax!sdcc7!{li63sfh}%WISCVM
Dec-Net: ihnp4!sdcsvax!sdcc7!{li63sfh}%DECWRL
 
-dragon pup

li63sfh@sdcc7.UUCP (Philip Kao) (04/23/85)

i recently received a letter from a possible roommate.
that person talked about Dr. Who.
well who the ____ is Dr. Who ?!?!?
am i living under a rock or what ?
please reply by email since i don't always have the time
to read all of the above newsgroups.

uucp   : ...!{ucbvax,ihnp4,noscvax}!sdcsvax!sdcc7!{li63sfh}
arpa   : sdcsvax!sdcc7!{li63sfh}@{Berkeley,Nosc}
CS-Net : (none)
Bit-Net: sdcsvax!sdcc7!{li63sfh}%WISCVM
Dec-Net: ihnp4!sdcsvax!sdcc7!{li63sfh}%DECWRL

thanx
- dragon pup

percus@acf4.UUCP (Allon G. Percus) (04/26/85)

This is cross-posted from net.tv:

/* acf4:net.tv / percus@acf4.UUCP (Allon G. Percus) /  3:28 pm  Apr 26, 1985 */
NO, IT IS NOT A BAD SIGN.

Dr. Who is a great show about the Doctor, an interplanetary time
traveller, "who risks his skin outwitting harsh fiends: a
champion of universal freedom."  Almost everyone who starts
watching falls in love with the show:  The Doctor has been
played by six actors over a period of 22 years.  (This is
because the Doctor doesn't die really, he can "regenerate"
up to twelve times.)  The character has developed into
an unpredictable, eccentric, and often extremely humorous
figure.  For those interested, there is a net.tv.drwho
existing.

ADVICE:  WATCH DR. WHO, and decide for yourself (It may seem
         a bit stupid at first, but you'll love it after the
         second time).
                                         A. G. Percus
                                  (ARPA) percus@acf4
                                   (NYU) percus.acf4
                                  (UUCP) ...!ihnp4!cmcl2!acf4!percus
/* ---------- */

dac1@ukc.UUCP (D.Caldwell) (05/03/85)

Dear Philip Kao - Yes, you are living under a rock.

- David Caldwell,  Canterbury, England.

dac1@ukc.UUCP (D.Caldwell) (05/03/85)

In fact, Philip, being in love with Dr Who is definitely a good sign.
Perhaps he will be able to enhance your education.

- David Caldwell,  Canterbury, England.

earl@BRL.ARPA@caip.RUTGERS.EDU (02/11/86)

From: Earl Weaver (VLD/ASB) <earl@BRL.ARPA>

Dr. Who has been playing in the Baltimore (MD) area and has gotten to the
point that he has a new sidekick Romano.  Unfortunately, I must now make
a decision as to whether to forego watching it in favor of a higher priority
activity.  Anybody who knows the Dr. Who series can help me out; will
Romano ever dress the way Leela did?

ins_bjab@jhunix.UUCP (Jessica A Browner) (02/13/86)

> Dr. Who has been playing in the Baltimore (MD) area and has gotten to the
> point that he has a new sidekick Romano.  Unfortunately, I must now make
> a decision as to whether to forego watching it in favor of a higher priority
> activity.  Anybody who knows the Dr. Who series can help me out; will
> Romano ever dress the way Leela did?


  No, sorry, Romana will never dress the way Leela did (and neither will
anyone else, for that matter).  But if you keep watching, you still have
Tegan's leather mini-skirt and Peri's bikini to look forward to!

                                                          Jessica   :-)

kayuucee@cvl.UUCP (02/14/86)

>   No, sorry, Romana will never dress the way Leela did (and neither will
> anyone else, for that matter).  But if you keep watching, you still have
> Tegan's leather mini-skirt and Peri's bikini to look forward to!
> 
>                                                           Jessica   :-)

	I'm afraid not. All we get in the Washington D.C/Baltimore area
is Tom Baker's Doctor and THAT'S ALL. We are on the third time around with
the fourth Doctor since I got interested in watching Doctor Who. It doesn't
look like we'll ever see anyother except at cons.

						Star-Lord

They were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Naturally they became heroes.