[net.music.synth] Mirages and Adv Samp Guide query

peterb@pbear.UUCP (10/15/85)

	Well now its been a while since I posted to this group, but it has
been very informative to read all of the articles here. At least no flaming
has started here. I personally think that by the time a person is ready to
flame to the group, the offending piece of equipment has already flown out
the window!

	I realize that a lot of the readers here have used the DX/TX series
of synthds from Yamaha, while others use DC Analog (such as the Korgs) or the
DC Samplers (such as the Mirage). After listening to both types of synths
(and actually using them for a while) I can state that they both have there
uses and their niches in the SynthWorld. I will reserve judgement on which
was better for what since I have been sampling the DX-7's best patches on the
Mirage. The only bug is that I need the Advanced Sampler's Guide for the
Mirage in order to alleviate a few of the problems I find floating around my
transient studio. It has been exasperating for both me and the music store
that I bought my Mirage from since I have been waiting for a long time for
my copy of the Guide, so...

	On to the request...

	I would like to hear from ANYBODY who has seen a copy of the Advanced
Sampler's Guide for the Ensinoq Mirage. I have been looking for it a long
time, and am getting desperate. I would be much into someone's debt if they
could send me a Xerox of it(I know it cuts ensoniq out of their bucks, but
since I already spent my 50$, then it is not illegal, and will hold me over
until my copy arrives).

	On to other things. I talked with Rich Rosen last week and demo'd
the Mirage over the phone for him(OK, its not the same as the real thing,
but its memorex :-) since he was asking about it compared to the possible
vaporware Prophet sampler. So in order to save everybody's hassles, I would
like to hear from all people on the net who own or use Mirages so that I can
see the scope of the problem of passing patches around, software to
drive the mirage, etc...

	Please send the address and phones and comments to:

{ihnp4!inmet|{harvard|cca}!ima}!pbear!mirage

	(The '{' and '}' in the above address specify the scope of disjoint
parameters seperated by '|'), i.e {harvard|cca} specifies either 'harvard'
or 'cca'.


Thanx all!!!

Peter Barada
{ihnp4!inmet|{harvard|cca}!ima}!pbear!peterb


Ps -    One real nice thing about the Mirage and it's percussion disk is
	that when combine with the Roland TR-707 (or any other rythym box
	that can drive MIDI) is that the simmon set comes alive and is real
	good to lay down on a track!

rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (10/19/85)

> 	On to other things. I talked with Rich Rosen last week and demo'd
> the Mirage over the phone for him(OK, its not the same as the real thing,
> but its memorex :-) since he was asking about it compared to the possible
> vaporware Prophet sampler. So in order to save everybody's hassles, I would
> like to hear from all people on the net who own or use Mirages so that I can
> see the scope of the problem of passing patches around, software to
> drive the mirage, etc... [PETER BARADA]

Well, Peter, count me in on any Mirage user exchange.  I went and bought it
last week (along with the TR707), and thus far I've been very pleased with
it, having learned to sync the drum machine with the Mirage sequencer in
shorter time than I expected (through MIDI).  I have several curiosity
questions, some of which I'll probably feel stupid and naive about having
asked after I get the simple answers, but heck, I just got it a week ago,
so here goes.

1.  Is there a way of transposing a sequence during playback using the keyboard
	(say, recording it in C and playing it back an octave/some interval
	higher/lower)?

2.  Is there a way to append an already recorded sequence (NOT overdub,
	but continue with more material after the end point)?

I mentioned these as "enhancement requests" to Ensoniq, along with getting
separate upper and lower outputs.  I haven't started sampling yet (my apartment
is too much of a mess to do anything ridiculous at this point), but I'm
curious about other new sounds I'd be looking for:

	- studio laughter (and/or diabolical laughter)
	- other sound effects (thunder, gunshot, whip cracking,
		birds, etc.
	- mixmaster turntable scratch
	- blown drainpipe (a la Peter Gabriel)
	- sitar
	- other guitar sounds (Andy Summers' sound, hollowbody)
-- 
"There!  I've run rings 'round you logically!"
"Oh, intercourse the penguin!"			Rich Rosen    ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr