bob@ulose.UUCP ( Robert Bismuth ) (11/15/85)
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gcd@mtx5d.UUCP (George C. Davidson) (11/21/85)
> <------ another of those un-needed blank lines, just in case -------> > > I am thing of adding some sort of digital reverb/delay to my modest home > studio. Anyone got any comments or experience with the under $500 units > I see advertised? > > -- bob > (...!decvax!ulose!bob) > *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** Subject: programming for midi. I am interested in programming specific application software for midi but I want to use a higher level language such as Pascal. Could anyone give me some details on how(parameters,interfacing,structures,etc). Please send me the information directly. George C. Davidson AT+T IS rm.2F501 Middletown N.J. 07748 phone 201-957-1707 (work) 201-922-1279 (home)
jsl@potomac.UUCP (John Labovitz) (11/22/85)
> I am thing of adding some sort of digital reverb/delay to my modest home > studio. Anyone got any comments or experience with the under $500 units > I see advertised? > > -- bob > (...!decvax!ulose!bob) You won't be able to get a decent (if any) reverb for under $500. Most of them start at about $800. I looked at the Yamaha (don't remember the model number) digital reverb last nite, which sells around here (DC) for $1000, and it's REALLY nice. It's got all these presets, like ``large room,'' ``small club,'' etc. It also comes with a remote control. I believe it will also function as a normal delay, so if you're serious about getting reverb and delay, this would probably be a good one. However, if real reverb isn't that important, I recommend a delay by Digitech. I can't remember the model number -- it's something-1900. Up to 2 seconds of delay, infinite repeat, input/output level controls, speed & width settings, level meter (LED bargraph), CV input, phase/mix/dry out. All inputs/outputs are 1/4" jacks. It's got 4 rough delay settings -- flange, chorus, double, and echo, plus a find-tune control. I'm completely satisfied with the unit. I use it all the time, with a variety of instruments -- bass, guitar, and vocals. A friend uses it on his keyboard setup. The best part about this is the price -- lists for $260 (I think), but they are selling here for ~$225. I got mine for $200 because it was a demo. -- John Labovitz ..!{rlgvax,seismo}!bdmrrr!potomac!jsl -- Please don't call me Reg, it's not my name.
tim@fisher.UUCP (Tim Snyder) (12/02/85)
> > I am thing of adding some sort of digital reverb/delay to my modest home > > studio. Anyone got any comments or experience with the under $500 units > > I see advertised? > > > > -- bob > > (...!decvax!ulose!bob) > > You won't be able to get a decent (if any) reverb for under $500. Most of > them start at about $800. I looked at the Yamaha (don't remember the model > John Labovitz ..!{rlgvax,seismo}!bdmrrr!potomac!jsl > -- NONSENSE! There are some monster reverbs available for around $400. I recently purchased an ALESIS XT. The list is around $800, but the unit can be had for less than $500. It features a (rare) continuous delay time control coupled with a "large" or "small" program selector. Other features include pre-delay and slapback (a quicker pre-delay), which produce a beautiful reverberated echo; a diffusion switch, which allows the thousands a reverb-producing delays to be "smoothed out,"; and several eq controls, one of which, hf damp, simulates the damping of the higher frequencies of naturally reverb- erant spaces. The sounds are remarkably flexible and can be uncannily real if you so desire. The delay times range from ultra-tiny (for the Phil Collins bathroom drum sound, although I can't recall [intended] the spec.) to about TEN seconds (more than you should ever need (i.e., the God Canyon). I have been told that ALESIS is run by a former MXR baron. Also nice is a Yamaha unit for around mid-$400s. The sounds are very real, although one has only four room sizes to select from, with further size adjustments via equalization. I noticed that Bill Bruford uses one of these live, and it is likely that he can afford a Yamaha REV-whatever (described by the other Re:-) or even a Lexicon. There are also some fair spring reverbs (the above are digital) for less cash. The only one I like is the old-standby Furman in the mid- to low-$200s, which you should be able to find used, although it is a bit of a dinosaur, meaning I think the extra $200-$250 for digital is justified. In delays, there is the astounding KORG SDD 2000, which has set the standard in its and other price ranges. SOME features are: delay time up to 4.3+ sec, with a freq. resp. of up to 17 kHz. for delays under 1.092 sec (this is high for digital delays!); all the flanging, doubling, and chorus you need; 64 programs, selectable via MIDI; and any other delay feature most desire, including 1 to infinite repeat and variable modulation. What makes the unit so incredible is that it samples, so if you play (MIDI) keyboards or even a (MIDI) digital drummer, you can trigger the samples from them. It even accepts note on/off, key velocity, and pitch wheel data. Moreover, the display is very clear and complete, and the functions are extremely easy to access and use. The price is only $500 or less after discounts and before tax, title, and destination charges. If you plan to purchase a less expensive unit, I believe the KORG is worth the extra cash if you milk the cow. Furthermore, you will have to spend a carload extra for any unit which surpasses it. KORG also offer a less expensive SDD 1000, which apparently does much of the above with less ease and less programmability for concomitantly less cash, although I haven't checked it out. A NOTE CONCERNING DIGITAL (OR ANY) DELAYS (if you don't already know): Don't be misled by ridiculously long (more than one second) delay times! One rarely uses times of this lenghth in recording or live production, so that a particular unit goes to "n seconds" is rarely worth extra pocket lint. Furthermore, once you ask a salesman if he has anything which goes LONGER than 4 or so seconds, he will know what meal you are eating and attempt to eat all the remaining lint! If you have any more questions, comments, controversies, or elephant flames, mail 'em or postum, and I'll help if I am able. Tim Snyder princeton!fisher!tim or princeton!tilt!tim