[net.music.synth] TX-7 Casio CZ 3000

robin@gitpyr.UUCP (Robin Cutshaw) (02/07/86)

I apologize about my earlier posting saying the the CZ3000 had some kind of
build in reverb capability.  I could have sworn that's what the salesman
told me (I should have taken a closer look at the topside).

I recently went back to (a different) local synth shop to take a look at
some multi-timbral synths.  I want some broader capabilities in real time.
I went through every preset on the CZ3000, and although I liked what I
heard, it sounded pretty "synth".  While there I took a listen at the TX-7.
I was impressed, for some objective and some prejuidiced reasons.  I have
a DX-7, and (apparently) my programming knowledge would not require
amendment.  Also the fact that I am dealing with a well established and
received product and company (especially one which provides technical
documentation, as I have notice of on the net).

The two local stores I have been to have both made comment that the CZ
gets kind of weak when using 16 voices (not that my music is that busy
anyway).  Is this true?  Both places also said "No Problem" with the TX-7.
Also, I was given a five dollar price difference between the two (the TX-7
was the cheaper).  I like the idea of basically having 16 DX-7's at my
beckon call, but I would like to hear from any net.people with comments
or corrections to my perceptions.  I have seen a little about the TX-7 on
the net, so I know you are out there.  Recently I got some MIDI documentation
from Yahmaha, and it seems I remember it was written for the TX-7 and a
hand scrawled note said "Not All Parameters Will Apply to the DX-7".  Now
that I really want to look, I can't find the document in my files.

Any input would be severly appreciated.  I hate indecision.  By the way,
I think I posted an incorrect net address earlier and the proper address
is gatech!itcatl!parris.  Ignore any system info associated with this
posting;  our system is having some comm problems and I am using a 
colleague's Tech account (but I am a student there, so I guess that makes
it moral).  Thanks to all in advance.

		Parris		gatech!itcatl!parris

Meanwhile, back on the farm, Granny lies helpless in a ditch.

Parris R. Hughes
Systems Analyst
ITC Corp., (404) 261-1264

djg@well.UUCP (David Julian Gray) (02/11/86)

In comparing the Casio CZ synths and the Yamaha TX-7
expander module, the concepts of polyphonic and multi-timbral
seem to be getting confused.
The TX-7 is the equivalent of having *one* more DX-7;
that is sixteen note polyphonic capability with one 
instumental sound (patch).  The TX-7 will not provide the
sonic capability of sixteen DX-7's, only one DX-7.
Yamaha has a nice product called the TX-8/16 which will
give you the equivalent of eight (8) DX-7's, but that
will cost you the equivalent of ten (10) CZ-3000's!!
Ten CZ-3000's, by the way, will be able to produce
an electronic consort of EIGHTY (80 !!) single voice
instruments, and pretty nice sounding ones at that.
The CZ series are all *multi-timbral*, meaning
many (different) timbres -sounds- -instruments- simultaneously.
The CZ-3000/5000 has the digital equivalent of 
sixteen oscillators.  Some single oscillator sounds
are quite nice (flute, whistle, etc) and you can have
sixteen note single-timbre polyphony played manually.
Most voices require two "oscillators" (the maximum you 
can asign) and that way you can have eight note
single-timbre polyphony (either played manually or
via MIDI) or eight monophonic instruments (timbres) 
played via MIDI (mono-mode).

I hope this quick and dirty explication is more enlightening
than obfuscatory (I have used varied terms somewhat
interchangeably).
I think a DX-7 and CZ-3000 is one of the most cost effective
MIDI combinations going.
One last note, the DX-7 is a versatile controller sending
many MIDI parameters; the CZ will not send or receive
velocity or after-touch.  Another consideration.

David Julian Gray

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