[net.sources.mac] Version 5.0 of Binhex

supp@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Steve Upp) (04/30/85)

This is version 5.0 of Binhex this came from CompuServe.

Looks like another version of XBin will have to be written.  The 4.0 and
5.0 files are totaly incompatable.


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dtw@cmu-cs-k.ARPA (Duane Williams) (05/02/85)

It is my impression that BinHex 5.0 handles a MacBINARY (8 bit) format
created by some people on CompuServe.  This format is probably not suitable
for shipping files around the net.
-- 
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sean@oddjob.UUCP (Sean Casey) (05/02/85)

> This is version 5.0 of Binhex this came from CompuServe.
> 
> Looks like another version of XBin will have to be written.  The 4.0 and
> 5.0 files are totaly incompatable.
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> (This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)
> 
> :"Q*TEQKi03""8&"-3Qj)F5!!N!FH![dE!*!%!3#3!abS!!!EU!!!!9TXC!!4'%,
> T9&08,N,M0c3S36!T!!`B61P#6NAP6faN!"%B9ZP88e3Z3Z-i-LK"-#N!$"KJk8*
> 14H92E'3!$KKUk8*68Z9-C%KNFJ!1'(6T3Nj&j99&FR)`!"3BIZP06eC&j#-a-$!

And the list continues...Would someone like to explain why we need all
these versions of binhex?? File compaction was an obvious advantage over
"fromhex" but binhex5.0!!  I still have copies of binhex3.0 ( in the
binhex2.0 format of course). And lord knows you cann't throw out any of 
the older versions. We still find postings compatible with binhex2.0 .  
So come on! What's the point to all this -):

Sean Casey	...ihnp4!oddjob!sean

P.S. How about someone posting a binhex5.0 version of Fromhex? This
would make the cycle complete. (Only kidding but I might be tempted
to do it.)

brad@gcc-bill.ARPA (Brad Parker) (05/07/85)

In article <704@oddjob.UUCP> sean@oddjob.UUCP (Sean Casey) writes:
>
>And the list continues...Would someone like to explain why we need all
>these versions of binhex?? File compaction was an obvious advantage over
>"fromhex" but binhex5.0!!  I still have copies of binhex3.0 ( in the
>binhex2.0 format of course). And lord knows you cann't throw out any of 
>the older versions. We still find postings compatible with binhex2.0...
>Sean Casey	...ihnp4!oddjob!sean

This is actually a valid point. Perhaps it's time to creat one (1) version
of binhex which will handle versions 2-5. Pick any mac interface method
you like to select the version. Maybe it could even take a look at the file
and figure it out.

Also, Dennis Brothers has worked up a file transfer standard for mac files.
It is supposed to be protocol independant and will probably become widely
used. Something to look at....
-- 

J Bradford Parker
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jimb@amdcad.UUCP (Jim Budler) (05/08/85)

In article <254@gcc-bill.ARPA> brad@gcc-bill.UUCP (Brad Parker) writes:
>In article <704@oddjob.UUCP> sean@oddjob.UUCP (Sean Casey) writes:
>>
>>And the list continues...Would someone like to explain why we need all
>>these versions of binhex?? File compaction was an obvious advantage over
>>...
>>binhex2.0 format of course). And lord knows you cann't throw out any of 
>>the older versions. We still find postings compatible with binhex2.0...
>>...
>This is actually a valid point. Perhaps it's time to creat one (1) version
>of binhex which will handle versions 2-5. Pick any mac interface method

No, it's not.  BinHex 4 or 5 both can decode any of the previous methods
already.  Their only limitation is that they can each ENCODE only one
type of format.  Also, Dennis Brothers' protocol is an eight bit protocol
and, as such, not usable on the net where an 8 bit path cannot be guarenteed.-- 
 Jim Budler
 Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
 (408) 749-5806
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gus@Shasta.ARPA (05/08/85)

> In article <704@oddjob.UUCP> sean@oddjob.UUCP (Sean Casey) writes:
> >
> >And the list continues...Would someone like to explain why we need all
> >these versions of binhex?? File compaction was an obvious advantage over
> >"fromhex" but binhex5.0!!  I still have copies of binhex3.0 ( in the
> >binhex2.0 format of course). And lord knows you cann't throw out any of 
> >the older versions. We still find postings compatible with binhex2.0...
> >Sean Casey	...ihnp4!oddjob!sean
> 
> This is actually a valid point. Perhaps it's time to creat one (1) version
> of binhex which will handle versions 2-5. Pick any mac interface method
> you like to select the version. Maybe it could even take a look at the file
> and figure it out.

BINHEX 5.0 can READ all previous formats (1-5) but it can only WRITE the
new BINHEX 5. Note that none of these support the old FROMHEX format
used with early SUMACC programs.

In order to read any existing hex format, you only need BINHEX 5 and FROMHEX.
However, since BINHEX 5 is not suitable for sending over the net, you
also need BINHEX 4. These three programs should suffice. Everything
else is obsolete.