[net.politics.theory] To Terry Dineen

arndt@lymph.DEC (02/27/85)

Don't look now but I think you have made a nonsense statement!!!

"Might does not make right because there is no 'right'; . . ."

       Er, . . . isn't THAT statement a statement of what is RIGHT???
I mean you would disagree, based upon the sentiments above that 'might
makes right because there is a 'right', wouldn't you?

How do you KNOW that there is no 'right'????

Your statement, that there is no right, IS a statement of what you think 
is right!!!!

As for the rest of the sentence "governments are natural phenomena - they
arise quite independently of moral philosophy.", it is breathtaking to say
the least.  What was the Declaration of Independence?????  If not an appeal
to moral philosophy!!  Do you really think that governments spring up as
natural phenomena like mushrooms??  Surely a new school of historiography!

Regards,

Ken Arndt

jeff@rtech.ARPA (Jeff Lichtman) (03/01/85)

> 
> Don't look now but I think you have made a nonsense statement!!!
> 
> "Might does not make right because there is no 'right'; . . ."
> 
>        Er, . . . isn't THAT statement a statement of what is RIGHT???
> I mean you would disagree, based upon the sentiments above that 'might
> makes right because there is a 'right', wouldn't you?
> 
> How do you KNOW that there is no 'right'????
> 
> Ken Arndt

I think you are confusing two meanings of "right", one being "factually correct"
and the other being "morally correct".  I think that the original statement
meant that there is no objective morality, not that there is no such thing as
a fact.

My objection to this statement is that "might makes right" isn't a statement
of fact, but rather a commentary on how power is abused.  The average person is
forced to follow the moral codes of the powerful (whoever that happens to be).
So might can make right (the accepted standards of behavior) even if there is
no objective "right".
-- 
Jeff Lichtman at rtech (Relational Technology, Inc.)
aka Swazoo Koolak