mck@ratex.UUCP (Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan) (03/22/85)
Mr Carnes tells us that 'A common denominator of the libertarians on the net, even the economically sophisticated ones, is that they have absolutely no notion of what Marx said and thought.' Mr Carnes has engaged in foolish overstatement! Let me note some of what Marx thought, and why it was wrong. An integral element of Marxism metaphysics is Dialectical Materialism. Marx derived this system from Hegel. Hegel had argued that reality proceeded thru stages. First there was a stage called the 'Thesis', then a stage of opposite characteristics, called the 'Antithesis', and finally a product of 'Thesis' and 'Antithesis' called (not surprisingly) the 'Synthesis'. Hegel had argued for such a metaphysical process because: 1) Dialectical reasoning (a system where understanding of a concept is amplified by consideration of its opposite) is the highest form of reasoning. 2) God used the highest form of reasoning. and 3) The universe is God's mind. Point 1 is arguable (Hegel substantiated it circularly); point 2 can be opposed on the grounds that God doesn't REASON (he just KNOWS); point 3 relies upon the existence of God, and a challengable theory of the universe. Marx adopted Hegel's claim that reality proceeds dialectically, but would have none of his Theistic nonsense. Trouble is, Marx never thought to fill in the hole that removing God left! Dialectical Materialism was thus an unsubstantiated dogma. Now, of course, one might try to substantiate this dogma by empirical analysis; many Marxists have sought to do so. Early attempts were flawed because Marxists generated their 'facts' from their theory (sure of the theory, they were sure of these 'facts'), not surprizingly, subsequent research has often demonstrated these 'facts' to be completely at variance with truth. This practice of falsification has been continued by some Marxists (recently, a Marxist author who had 'documented' Capitalist support for Fascism was shown to have invented and otherwise altered key references), but there are those Marxists who make a wholly honest attempt to seek-out the facts, and build paradigms which include these facts while preserving the essentials of Dialectical Materialism. Unfortunately for the Marxists, subsequent predictions by these systems are never both unique and correct (those which are unique are not correct; those which are correct are not unique). Marx claimed that, as the transition was made from Feudalism to what he called 'Capitalism', an elite wrested control of the means of production from the community, thereby creating an opposite class (the Proletariat) who, having nothing left but their labor, were forced to work for the Capitalists. Engels's writings are filled with idyllic descriptions of the wonderful agrarian life before the coming of the Capitalist oppressors. While there was unquestionably unjustifiable seizure of land by an elite, it hardly explains as much of the arisal of the Capitalist as Marx would like it to. But (for purposes of non-prescriptive analysis), the Marxist picture of agarian paradise, and the Marxist explanation of the development of a Proletariat class are far worse! Marx and Engels made the pitiable assumption that the standard of living of the pre- Capitalist small farmer was roughly that of the 19th century small farmer. If anyone cares to (and many cliometricians have), they care crank-out the figures on how many people could live at what level given available resources (including technology) in the pre-Capitalist period. If you do, you will discover that A PROLETARIAT CLASS AROSE BECAUSE UNDER THE NEW ECONOMIC ORDER, THEY COULD FIND JOBS, SURVIVE, AND MULTIPLY; WHEREAS, UNDER THE OLD ORDER, THEY JUST STARVED. And let's go back to the relationship between the Proletariat and the Capitalists. Marx noted that there was a significant differential between (undiscounted) price and cost; he concluded that this difference was principally got by paying the laborer less than his worth. I included the paranthetical modifier 'undiscounted' because MARX FAILED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT TIME-PREFERENCE. In *Capital and Interest*, Bohm Bawerk justified and included the phenomenon of time-preference in his analysis, and showed that this was the principal source of 'surplus value' (I sketched Bohm Bawerk's justification in an early discussion of interest). Marx's mistake was being made elsewhere by others, but it was a mistake nonetheless! Further, a great deal of Marx's analysis is built on the assumption that, overall, cost determines price, when in fact PRICE DETERMINES COST because the demand for the factors of production is ultimately derived from the demand for what they produce! At its core, Marxism is fundamentally, fatally flawed! Is everything in Marx worthless? No. For example, his theory of the business cycle (while hardly sufficient) contains some worthwile points. I began with Mr Carnes's quote ([...] 'libertarians on the net' [...] 'have absolutely no knowledge of what Marx said and thought.'). Clearly, that claim was ridiculous! If Mr Carnes were to instead claim that Libertarians do not have as much of an understanding of Marx as, all things being equal, they ought to, then he would be right. But all things are not equal, and I little more have the time for an autopsy of Marxism than for an autopsy of Ptolemiacism (whatever my estimation of the intelligence of either man). Back later, DKMcK PS: Altho I have not yet had much time to read it (for the same reason that I have been absent from the net), I obtained a copy of *PC* by Sraffa the day after I made a promise to do so.