[net.politics.theory] Lenin and my .signature

gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg Kuperberg) (04/05/85)

> > 			Greg Kuperberg
> > 		     harvard!talcott!gjk
> > 
> > "No Marxist can deny that the interests of socialism are higher than the
> > interests of the right of nations to self-determination." -Lenin, 1918
> 
> A reference, please? Like, where did Lenin say this?

From \Main Currents of Marxism/, by Leszek Kolakowski, Volume II (the
Golden Age), on page 401:

"Lenin's position is thus clear, and it is hard to see how he can ever have
been represented, as he notoriously was, as a champion of political
independence for all peoples.  He was a convinced opponent of national
oppression and proclaimed the right of self-determination, but always with
the reservation that it was only in exceptional circumstances that social
democracy could support political separatism.  Self-determination was at
all times absolutely subordinate to the party's interests, and if the
latter conflicted with the national aspirations of any people, the latter
were of no account.  This reservation in effect nullified the right of
self-determination and turned it into a purely tactical weapon.  The party
would always try and utilize national aspirations in the struggle for
power, but the 'interest of the proletariat' could never be subordinated to
the desires of a whole people.  As Lenin wrote soon after the Revolution in
his \Thesis/ on the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk:  'No Marxist, without
renouncing the principles of Marxism and socialism generally, can deny that
the interests of socialism are higher than the interests of the right of
nations to self-determination.' (\Works/, vol. 26, p. 449)..."
-- 
			Greg Kuperberg
		     harvard!talcott!gjk

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