esk@wucs.UUCP (Paul V. Torek) (04/16/85)
[whatever the consequences, you shouldn't read this line] Disclaimers: I am not saying libertarianism = pacifism. I am not saying that the one leads to the other. I am not saying that either one implies the other. Imagine trying to argue with a pacifist. One who not only refused to use violence himself, but advocated the adoption of his view by others. Who could be *for* violence? Imagine life without any violence whatsoever -- wouldn't that be great? And don't be too quick to say that pacifism is impractical. There are lots of ways to do things without violence. In the case of violence initiated by other governments, peaceful resistance is possible and could conceivably (if popular) be very effective. Just because the familiar "solutions" to such problems involve violence, doesn't mean that non-violent alternatives wouldn't work. If you find the above unconvincing, YOU'RE RIGHT! For it ignores two important points. One, the pacifist's solutions would be complex, difficult, and in many ways less effective than what we have now. Two, the whole discussion assumes a set of values which I (and I think most people) simply disagree with, and find severely WANTING OF JUSTIFICATION. Yes, violence is bad, but NOT *THAT* ALL-FIRED BAD. The problem with pacifism is its PURISM -- its insistence that, WHATEVER THE CONSEQUENCES OR CIRCUMSTANCES, one should NEVER use violence. Now, substitute the word "libertarian" ("-ism") for "pacifist" ("-ism"), "coercion" ("-ive") for "violence" ("-ent"), and repeat the above two paragraphs. And then, one might understand the rest of us's reluctance to accept the well-reasoned, practically achievable, but still flawed solutions of either view. --The developing iconoclast, Paul V. Torek, ihnp4!wucs!wucec2!pvt1047