[net.politics.theory] Problems with libertaria

nrh@inmet.UUCP (05/29/85)

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>	The discussion of the speed limit or lack thereof in Germany seems
>to illustrate the difficulties libertarianism has with issues of social
>cost.  As I understand it (and you are free to correct me if I am wrong),
>the motivating force behind the imposition of speed limits in Germany is
>neither safety nor fuel conservation, but pollution control.  Germany has a
>very bad acid rain problem, especially in the Black Forest, and I had read
>that this was what caused agitation for a speed limit.  It seems to me that
>issues like this, involving scarce resources `owned' by society at large
>(e.g., the water supply, the atmosphere), are issues which libertarianism
>has a great deal of difficulty coping with.

Economic externalities are the classic case of "what the market won't fix".

This does not mean that libertarian philosophy doesn't allow for their
handling, merely that the free market won't handle them (given certain
restrictions on the market).  This is, I should point out, hardly a
particular problem of libertarianism: unless you care to argue that
Germany has a libertarian government, it's pretty obvious that the
Black Forest problem, and other externalities will be seriously
bungled by non-libertarian governments.

If you say: "but at least non-libertarian governments have a mechanism
for coping with such a thing", I agree -- but look at how it is used.

In a libertarian Germany, it would not be hard to imagine that the
Black Forest was owned by a bunch of nature lovers who sued the 
CLASS of automobile owners (and polluters in general) through
a court system that permitted this.  There are also non-anarchic
solutions (minimal government might concern itself 
exclusively with preventing its own growth and with economic
externalities).  

Believe me, if the plight of the Black Forest (and similar problems)
is your biggest objection to libertarian society, you probably
would PREFER a libertarian society to the one you live in now.

By the way, if you are correct in your understanding that 
pollution avoidance was the reason speed limits
were imposed, then consider this: when will those speed limits go away?
Will cars that DON'T pollute at high speeds, or pollute the same at
high speeds as low speeds be permitted to travel at high speeds?

Lest you think that the law will go away, I remind you that in the US,
we have a 55 mph speed limit sold to us on the basis of an "energy crisis".

The energy crisis is gone, but we still have the 55 mph limit.
(By the way, I invite anyone who believes that 55 has seriously
lowered the fatality rate to post the relevant statistics IN FULL).