bmg@mck-csc.UUCP (Bernard M. Gunther) (11/07/85)
> To refresh your memory, the question at hand is: Does government provide > stability, and is that stability necessary for production. > > In article <1542@teddy.UUCP> lkk@teddy.UUCP (Larry K. Kolodney) writes: > >> Consider the Louisiana Territory before the last wave of > >>immigrants (whites) showed up. A very stable society, with little or no > >>government above the intertribal level. Now, consider the same Territory > >>after the US government has moved in to stabilize things. The buffalo die > >>off, the people living on the land are thrown off, trees start growing in > >>the Great Plains, etc. Most decidedly *not* stable. [Other examples of both > >>cases provided for the asking.] > > > >Right. When only Aborigines lived on the great plains, there was no > >need for a global government, becuase there was no global society. > >When the white men came and destroyed everything, this may have been > >bad for the Indian, but, in the long run, it was good for the white > Where are you deriving your facts about the indians in the Great Plains/ Louisiana Purchase Territories as being stable? I know very little about the times and lives of the inhabitants, but I tend to think that it might not have been as 'stable' as you would like to think. Do you have any facts to support this? Bernie Gunther
lkk@teddy.UUCP (11/08/85)
In article <161@mck-csc.UUCP> bmg@mck-csc.UUCP (Bernard M. Gunther) writes: >Where are you deriving your facts about the indians in the Great Plains/ >Louisiana Purchase Territories as being stable? I know very little about >the times and lives of the inhabitants, but I tend to think that it might >not have been as 'stable' as you would like to think. Do you have any >facts to support this? > >Bernie Gunther It was stable in the sense that (within particular tribes) a 20,000 year old civilization existed there, with a developed culture, religion and technology. -- Sport Death, (USENET) ...{decvax | ihnp4!mit-eddie}!genrad!panda!lkk Larry Kolodney (INTERNET) lkk@mit-mc.arpa -------- Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. - Helen Keller