[net.games.hack] Help!

t2@fluke.UUCP (Tom Thompson) (03/05/85)

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I am fairly new to Hack and the net so please excuse any questions that
may have been asked before.

1. Is there any advantage to naming your dog?

2. Are blank scrolls good for anything?

3. What does the scroll 'You feel as if someone is helping you' do?

4. What is the whistle used for?

Also if anyone has a list of the scrolls and what they do, please post
them, it would be a big help.

Thanks

swa@talcott.UUCP (Steven Augart) (03/07/85)

[eat it, eat it, eat it, eat it...]
> From: t2@fluke.UUCP (Tom Thompson)
> I am fairly new to Hack and the net so please excuse any questions that
> may have been asked before.
> 
> 1. Is there any advantage to naming your dog?
> 
> 2. Are blank scrolls good for anything?
> 
> 3. What does the scroll 'You feel as if someone is helping you' do?
> 
> 4. What is the whistle used for?
> 
> Also if anyone has a list of the scrolls and what they do, please post
> them, it would be a big help.
> 
> Thanks

 ---
 1) naming your dog is mostly just for fun.  If another dog appears on  the 
scene, it can help you keep track of him, especially since you can C) an unknown
dog, find out whether it's yours, and abort the command.  Also, your dog keeps 
his name If you become a ghost, so when you see a named dog, or any named 
animal, you are on a ghost level.

 2) I have never found a use for them, but I've also never managed to hit one 
with an identify scroll.   I usually assume they are blank, and useless.

 3) The scroll that makes you feel like someone is helping you is one of the 
most important items in the game--the remove curse scroll.  This will cancel
stickeycurses which you are under, and detatch the scroll of punishment's ball
and chain.  (A stickeycurse is when you put something on, or wield it, and it
won't come off.)
 4) There are two kinds of whistles.  The kind that makes a "high" sound is
just a whistle.  If your dog is in hearing range, he will head towards you and
follow you for a while. (This may depend on his loyalty, which is built up by
feeding him.)  The kind that makes a "strange" noise will teleport your dog to 
you.  If there are monsters in all adjacent squares, he will appear in a next-
to adjacent square and fight his way to you.

 5) scrolls:  I am working on a bunch of hints files, but I am not sure I am
quite ready to send them out yet.  Maybe soon.

		David Harmon, c/o swa@hu-talcott.ARPA

ps -- please post any queries/replies to harmon%h-sc4@harvard.ARPA
-- 
Let the beauty we love be what we do.

Steven Augart
{harvard,wjh12}!hscvax!augart
hscvax!augart@harvard.arpa		AUGART%HARVUNXU.BITNET

t2@fluke.UUCP (Tom Thompson) (03/11/85)

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I would like to thank everyone for their helpful respones, especialy
Ryan, the list you sent was very helpful.

Keep on hackin.

Tom

cem@intelca.UUCP (Chuck McManis) (03/27/85)

Hello world, to quote a phrase, I now have a version of the PDP-11 hack
that compiles on my Xenix-286 machine (286s and PDP-11s share the same
memory constraints) I had to make a couple of changes to mklev.c and 
mklev.make.c that involved making the statements of the form :
  levl[fobj -> ox = xxxx][fobj -> oy = yyyy].scrnchr = fobj -> olet;
into code resembling :
  fobj -> ox = xxxx; /* xxxx was expressions like MAZX, somex(), etc */
  fobj -> oy = yyyy; /* same for yyyy */
  levl[fobj -> ox][fobj -> oy].scrnchr = fobj -> olet; 

And most of the 'make new' code worked, (my system doesn't have install)
so I simply copied hack, save, mklev, help, and record into PLAYDIR and
used chmod to set the appropriate modes, and ran it. And it worked! sort
of. Obvious initial problems are that 
a.) The initial inventory consists of several items named aXXglorkum
    where XX is some number.
b.) The Status line shows me as having 1/U experience and U gold pieces.
c.) And when I die my name is some random set of characters in the score
    file.

Has anyone brought this version up and would be willing to field a few
questions? And if I go in as Wizard how can I check the proper operation
of the game? Any help would be appreciated.

--Chuck

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t2@fluke.UUCP (Tom Thompson) (05/29/85)

Several times I have come accross a dead lizard, can someone tell
me what they are good for?

Also I have not been able to get Elebreth to work, what am I doing
wrong?

Any replys will be appreciated.

Still struggling to at least see the amulet.

Tom Thompson , John Fluke mfg.Co.Inc.

john@x.UUCP (John Woods) (05/31/85)

> Several times I have come accross a dead lizard, can someone tell
> me what they are good for?
	Food.  That's it.
> 
> Also I have not been able to get Elebreth to work, what am I doing
> wrong?
	Capital-EE el bee ee are ee tee aitch.  Elbereth.

	If that doesn't work, your hack is broken or hacked.
-- 
John Woods, Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA, (617) 626-1101
...!decvax!frog!john, ...!mit-eddie!jfw, jfw%mit-ccc@MIT-XX.ARPA

"MU" said the Sacred Chao...

barton@osu-eddie.UUCP (Gary Barton) (06/01/85)

Keywords:


The little bug hits the program --more--
The program dies

In article <2344@vax4.fluke.UUCP> t2@fluke.UUCP (Tom Thompson) writes:
>Several times I have come accross a dead lizard, can someone tell
>me what they are good for?

As far as I know, this is just another snackin' food.  I haven't seen the
source to see if there is something special about them or not.  One thing for
sure : The net rumor about killing cockatrices with dead lizards is certainly
just that, a rumor.  You might have seen something about it reading this news-
group or by eating a fortune cookie, but it is unfortunately false.

>Also I have not been able to get Elebreth to work, what am I doing
>wrong?

You should spell it correctly :  That's "Elbereth".

-- 
				Gary Barton
			        Ohio State University
				(UUCP: cbosgd!osu-eddie!barton)
				(CSNet: barton@ohio-state)
                                (ARPA:  barton%ohio-state.csnet@CSNET-RELAY)

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kscott@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Kevin Scott%Kuntz) (06/06/85)

In article <355@osu-eddie.UUCP> barton@osu-eddie.UUCP (Gary Barton) writes:
>The little bug hits the program --more--
>The program dies
>
>In article <2344@vax4.fluke.UUCP> t2@fluke.UUCP (Tom Thompson) writes:
>>Several times I have come accross a dead lizard, can someone tell
>>me what they are good for?
>
>As far as I know, this is just another snackin' food.  
According to a coder I know (a person who reads the program for hints)
on nights with full moons cockatrices are especially dangerous, 1 hisssss
and you're dead.  But if you simply have a lizard in your pack you won't be
stoned, but only on nights of full moon.
>
>>Also I have not been able to get Elebreth to work, what am I doing
>>wrong?
>
>You should spell it correctly :  That's "Elbereth".
>
What is Elbereth???

friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) (06/07/85)

In article <523@x.UUCP> john@x.UUCP (John Woods) writes:
>	Capital-EE el bee ee are ee tee aitch.  Elbereth.
>
>	If that doesn't work, your hack is broken or hacked.

	Alright, Elbereth is a magic word, but what does it DO,
I seem to have missed this.
-- 

				Sarima (Stanley Friesen)

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trumpler@ucla-cs.UUCP (06/10/85)

In article <529@ucsfcgl.UUCP> kscott@ucsfcgl.UUCP writes:
>What is Elbereth???

Elbereth is a name from Tolkien's Middle Earth that is usually invoked by
the good guys to protect them from the bad guys in times of trouble.
Don't recall exactly what it was Elbereth did to earn this honor, though.

						   Mark Trumpler -+-
    UUCP: ...!{ihnp4,ucbvax}!ucla-cs!trumpler
    ARPA: trumpler@UCLA-LOCUS.ARPA soon trumpler@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU
    "Fish heads are never seen drinking cappucino in italian
     restaurants with oriental women" -- Barnes & Barnes

john@frog.UUCP (John Woods) (06/10/85)

> In article <523@x.UUCP> john@x.UUCP (John Woods) writes:
> >	Capital-EE el bee ee are ee tee aitch.  Elbereth.
> >	If that doesn't work, your hack is broken or hacked.
> 	Alright, Elbereth is a magic word, but what does it DO,
> I seem to have missed this.
> 				Sarima (Stanley Friesen)
Less inflamatory this time:

If you engrave Elbereth on the floor, nothing will attack you (except
shopkeepers, confused monsters, and hostile dogs).  If you write with your
finger, then any movement or HJKL attack will scramble the name, and you
are no longer protected.  If you use a wand of fire or an edged weapon (my
experience here is Hack version 1, note) then the engraving is more or less
permanent (something like a 1 in 500 chance of scrambling it).  If you're
willing to use up a wand of fire, you can create a room in which you can
strike monsters with (near total) impunity!

--
John Woods, Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA, (617) 626-1101
...!decvax!frog!john, ...!mit-eddie!jfw, jfw%mit-ccc@MIT-XX.ARPA

"MU" said the Sacred Chao...

bobn@bmcg.UUCP (Bob Nebert) (06/11/85)

> In article <523@x.UUCP> john@x.UUCP (John Woods) writes:
> >	Capital-EE el bee ee are ee tee aitch.  Elbereth.
> >
> >	If that doesn't work, your hack is broken or hacked.
> 
> 	Alright, Elbereth is a magic word, but what does it DO,
> I seem to have missed this.
> -- 
>> Whenever you want, (surrounded by O's A's whatever) type the 
>> upper case letter   E    . It will ask you what you want to
>> Engrave and with what. I forgot the exact syntax and order
>> but it is self explanitory when you do it. Engraving with
>> a - means barehanded. Engrave < Elbereth > and no monsters
>> will attack you. You can do anything you want ( zap, read,
>> quaff etc.) as long as you dont move off the square or get
>> involved in hand to hand combat. Dragons fire penetrates 
>> Elbereth as well as ANY other human, (shopkeeppers, nurse etc).
)) When you leave the square it is gone but you can rewrite it
>> at any time.

chuck@dartvax.UUCP (Chuck Simmons) (06/14/85)

> >> ... Dragons fire penetrates 
> >> Elbereth as well as ANY other human, (shopkeeppers, nurse etc).

Nurses do *not* penetrate Elbereth.  I often engrave Elbereth and strip
with a nurse standing next to me.  Then to attract her attention, I give her
a little love pat.

I believe that lecrottas (sp) do violate Elbereth.

Chuck