SY.FDC@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU (Frank da Cruz) (09/21/85)
Info-Kermit Digest Fri, 20 Sep 1985 Volume 3 : Number 20
Departments:
ANNOUNCEMENTS -
Kermit Available for Os9
Commodore 64 Kermit V1.7 Available
NEC APC III Kermit Available
IBM MAINFRAME KERMIT -
CMS Kermit Server Logout Problem Solved
CMS Kermit 2.01 Init File Problem
MISCELLANY -
Kermit Diskette Distribution
Kermit Diskette Distribution in UK
Kermit-11, P/OS, and TMS
Problem with C-Kermit on IS 68000 Q-Bus System with 4.2BSD
C-Kermit on Xenix on PC/AT?
C-Kermit for SUN on 1/4" Tape Cartridge?
MacKermit Beware Addition
Apple Kermit & CCS Card
Kermit as Mail Server?
Kermit for Victor 9000?
Octopus / Flex Kermit?
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Date: Wed 18 Sep 85 00:57:23-PDT
From: BLARSON@USC-ECLB.ARPA
Subject: Kermit Available for Os9
Os9 kermit is ready for distribution. It is based on old Unix Kermit, and
also has limited server functions. Read the .doc, .hlp, and .bwr files for
known limitations. (It should work on all os9 versions, but connect mode
has a problem with the CoCo bit banger port.)
I am willing to make a "s" format (hexadecimal) file available, but due to
numerous compile time options, its usefulness would be limited.
Bob Larson <Blarson@Usc-Ecl.Arpa>
UUcp: ihnp4!sdcrdcf!oberon!blarson
[Ed. - The files are available for anonymous FTP from CU20B as KER:OS9*.*.]
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Date: 8 Aug 85 10:02:53 EDT
From: Eric <LAVITSKY@RU-BLUE.ARPA>
Subject: Commodore 64 Kermit V1.7 Available
C64 Kermit V1.7(52) is ready for release. The new edits are bug fixes to the
command parser that screwed up the disk commands, a fix to make 1200 baud
file transmission work at a full 1200 baud, and a fix to the ASCII/PETSCI
conversion tables. All fixes were done by Frank Prindle (Prindle@NADC).
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Date: Thu 19 Sep 85 18:40:42-PDT
From: Ronald Blanford <CONTEXT@WASHINGTON.ARPA>
Subject: NEC APC III Kermit Available
Here is the MSXAP3.ASM module for the NEC APC III. I have only used this
briefly once, but as far as I can tell it does not implement keyboard
redefinition, does not implement any type of terminal emulation, and only
works with the standard serial port. Terminal mode does not have backward
paging.
The author is RAL from Virginia Polytechnic Institute, more than that I
don't know.
-- Ron
[Ed. - Thanks, Ron. The source file is in KER:MSXAP3.ASM on CU20B.]
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 85 00:19:12 EDT
From: Peter DiCamillo <CMSMAINT@BROWNVM>
Subject: CMS Kermit Server Logout Problem Solved
I think I've figured out why CMS Kermit doesn't log itself out correctly
through a Series/1 or 7171. There are two problems. First, when CMS
Kermit sends an ack to the logout or finish command, it uses transparent
write/read, as if it expected a response. The micro doesn't send a
response, which I believe matches the Kermit protocol, so the user
has to complete the read. The following update to CMS Kermit corrects
this problem by sending the final ack with just a transparent write:
./ R 00846000 $ 846290 290 09/16/85 22:44:58
DC X'40',AL1(SBA),X'5D7F',AL1(SBA) UPDATE1 00846290
S1ORDAD DC X'0001' addr. -> 0 for write UPDATE1 00846580
./ I 01601000 $ 1601500 500 09/16/85 22:44:58
XC S1ORDAD(2),S1ORDAD just write when ending UPDATE1 01601500
./ I 02869000 $ 2869300 300 09/16/85 22:44:58
CLC S1ORDAD(2),=H'0' was write/read done? UPDATE1 02869300
BE SPRET no: return now UPDATE1 02869600
^
[Ed. - I've removed some spaces so this will fit on the screen.]
The second problem affects only the logout command. Before issuing the CP
LOG command, CMS Kermit uses the sequence of WRTERM and WAITT to send an XON
to the micro and wait for the write to complete. However, if the console is
a Series/1 or 7171, CMS Kermit's own console interrupt handler is still in
control, so CMS hangs when the WAITT is executed. Also, to send an XON in
this case would require another transparent write, since WRTERM cannot send
control characters through a full-screen interface. The following update
solves this problem by bypassing the calls to WRTERM and WAITT for Series/1
and 7171 connections. It seemed safe to skip them since they weren't
working in this case anyway.
./ I 01607000 $ 1607300 300 09/16/85 22:44:58
TM S1FLAGS,ISS1 Is console a S/1? UPDATE2 01607300
BO SERVLOG Yes: skip line mode I/O UPDATE2 01607600
./ R 01611000 $ 1611490 490 09/16/85 22:44:58
SERVLOG LA 1,=C'LOG' UPDATE2 01611490
These updates are for CMS Kermit Version 2.01, and assume serialization
starting at 1000 with an increment of 1000. I've tested them with success
on both a Series/1 and a 7171.
Peter
[Ed. - Thanks, Peter -- I've included your message in CMSMIT.BWR until the
next release comes out.]
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 85 9:11:17 BST
From: Andrew J Cole <ajcole@ucl-cs.arpa>
Subject: CMS Kermit 2.01 Init File Problem
CMS Kermit 2.01 works very well with one small exception (non-feature?).
If server mode is entered directly from the CMS command line Kermit seems
to fail to read the KERMINI files.
Many thanks for such a useful system for a real pig of a system!
[Ed. - Thanks for the report; it's been added to the .BWR file.]
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 85 11:47:16 EDT
From: Don_Porter%RPI-MTS.Mailnet@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA
Subject: Kermit Diskette Distribution
I'd be willing to distribute Macintosh Kermit at RPI if you send me a copy
on diskette. There aren't many Macs at RPI, but there are a few. We support
Kermit on several mainframes on campus, and distribute it for IBM PCs and
some compatibles.
Don Porter
Assoc. Dir., Information Technology Services
[Ed. - I got a lot of responses like this to my query about Kermit diskette
distribution. I guess I wasn't clear enough... What I'm looking for are
organizations or individuals willing to distribute Kermit on diskette in some
particular format to the general public, e.g. by mail order, not just within
their own organizations. I haven't received reports of any of these. Can
anyone tell me about, say, Heath or Atari or Apple or ... user groups that
provide this kind of service, like PC SIG does for the IBM PC?]
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Date: 19-SEP-1985 11:17:29
From: SYSKERMIT%vax1.central.lancaster.ac.uk@ucl-cs.arpa
Subject: Kermit Diskette Distribution in UK
Lancaster University is able to distribute some KERMITs on native media. We
can currently handle Aculab Z80B, Sirius 1 (CP/M-86 and MS-DOS), BBC micro,
DEC Rainbow (CP/M-86) and IBM PC. We also maintain a freely accessible
contact list of other UK native media suppliers for machines we don't have,
and can broadcast enquiries to the UK Kermit community at large.
Distribution is free in the UK to educational users, but there's a small
handling charge for others: we don't supply the discs ourselves. Interested
users should contact me BEFORE sending discs, to check availability.
The service is one person, so response might be a few weeks, especially if I
have to pass discs on to others who actually own the machines.
We are willing to co-ordinate supply in the UK : anyone who wishes can be put
onto our contact list if they let me have details.
Alan Phillips
Department of Computing
Lancaster University UK
E-mail to SYSKERMIT @ LANCS.VAX1
JANET address 000010404000.FTP.MAIL
PSS address 234252400101.000010404000.FTP.MAIL
Telephone to 0524-65201x4881
(I cannot reply over UUCP and only unreliably over ARPA)
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Date: 18 SEP 85 12:11-EST
From: BRIAN%UOFT02.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA
Subject: Kermit-11, P/OS, and TMS
I may interest you to know that someone is adding to Kermit-11 for P/OS
to support TMS. I, as is often the case, will be unable to test such as
I do not hav TMS on the PRO but it does sound like the mods to Kermit-11
should be quite minimal.
brian
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Date: 18 Sep 1985 1046-PDT (Wednesday)
From: Paul Graham <unr70!unrvax!pjg@seismo.CSS.GOV>
Subject: Problem with C-Kermit on IS 68000 Q-Bus System with 4.2BSD
A nearby site using an Integrated Solutions (IS) q-bus 68000 board under
4.2bsd has been unable to get Kermit to open the phone line. Monitoring the
line shows behavior similar to cu and tip when the the line is first opened
(some lines are pulsed briefly) but after that kermit hangs. It works in
remote mode just fine. Anybody out there using an IS system successfuly?
Thanks for your time.
Paul Graham 702/784-6007
University of Nevada Reno
ucbvax!decvax!seismo!unr70!unrvax!pjg
unr70!unrvax!pjg@seismo[.CSS.GOV|.ARPA]
[Ed. - There seems to be a lot of this going around, see below...]
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 85 15:15:11 edt
From: yhe@ORNL-MSR.ARPA (Young Etheridge)
Subject: C-Kermit on Xenix on PC/AT?
Am encountering problem with "connect". After connecting /dev/tty00
to a null-modem line, then "set line /dev/tty00" followed with
"set baud 4800" then "connect", results in a deadly silence thereafter.
The communications channel is okay since "cu" works as advertised.
[Ed. - Can anyone who has this working offer some tips?]
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Date: Mon 16 Sep 85 13:41:12-EDT
From: Frank da Cruz <SY.FDC@CU20B.ARPA>
Subject: C-Kermit for SUN on 1/4" Tape Cartridge?
Anyone willing to provide a working C-Kermit program for the SUN with 4.2BSD
on quarter-inch tape cartridge, please contact
Peter Hiscocks
416-979-5000 x6109
Center for Advanced Technology (Ryerson Polytech), Toronto
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Date: 19 Sep 85 20:05:07 CDT (Thu)
From: ihnp4!islenet!david@Berkeley.EDU
Subject: MacKermit Beware Addition
Minor addition to your Mackermit BWR file: when a Settings file is saved,
it does not store the Command-Shift-1...Command-Shift-9 flag, so we have
to set it every session if we want it active.
[Ed. - Thanks, I've added it.]
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 85 11:19:17 BST
From: Chris_K_Now-and-Then <cjk@ucl-cs.arpa>
Subject: Apple Kermit & CCS Card
This note has circulated in UK. It's obviously of general interest,
so I send if on to you.
Chris Kennington.
Date: Wed 18 Sep 85 19:40:36-GDT
From: Alan Greig <CCD-ARG@UK.AC.dct>
Snail-Mail: Computer Centre / Dundee College of Tech / Dundee / Scotland
On the subject of Kermit for various Apple serial cards, the most notable
ommision (to my mind anyway) is the lack of support for the California
Computer Systems Card (CCS) which seems to be almost universely used in the
UK. At DCT we added support for this card to the sources and as we have
CROSS can provide hex files with this change. The original changes were made
by Colin Bruce (Colin%DCT@UK.AC.DUNDEE) who has now left to work with Data
General and involve only a few additions to some tables. The only known bug
is that the the card needs to be specifically reset by sticking some value
in its command register before running Kermit. (PR#n,IN#n RESET will do
this). This initialisation could/should really be inside apple kermit but
I've never got round to recompiling it.
Anyway it works and if anybody wants it let me know or I can send down
the changes to Lancaster.
Alan Greig
(Alan%DCT@UK.AC.DUNDEE)
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Date: Thursday, 19 September 1985 10:05-MDT
From: <crash!bblue@nosc.ARPA>
Subject: Kermit as Mail Server?
I've seen several messages lately about people allegedly using Kermit as a
mail gateway to Unix systems. Do you know how that is being done? Seems
like there would have to be a lot more Kermit than I've ever seen to
accomplish it. The implications are that of an almost uucp-like server.
Enlighten me, please?
--Bill
[Ed. - It is possible to run a Unix Kermit server as a login shell; OK
State is doing this. Presumably, you can then have other systems dial it
up, transfer queued mail to it, and then issue the appropriate "remote
host" command to it to deliver the mail. I don't know if anyone is actually
doing this -- is anyone??? However, I have heard of Kermit servers being
used as print spoolers, etc.]
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Date: Friday, 13 September 1985 14:40-MDT
From: hao!nbires!isis!galon!root@SEISMO.ARPA
Subject: Kermit for Victor 9000?
A friend has a Victor 9000 and is trying to talk with some IBM PC's.
I've been trying to get him a suite of Kermit Programs but todate have
been unsuccessful. A tape won't do him any good and I haven't found
it on floppies. I did locate it at Okstate, but was unable to pull it
using their uucp instructions either in kermit-a or kermit-b
directories.
Anyone knowing of or having a copy please contact me via email.
Thanks.
Pat Gallivan @ UUCP: ..!seismo!hao!nbires!isis!galon!fmg
Galon Exploration, Inc.
7122 S. Fillmore, (303) 770-6229
Littleton, CO 80122 Data: (303) 771-0258
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 85 17:26:34 BST
From: Chris_K_Now-and-Then <cjk@ucl-cs.arpa>
To: info-kermit@cu20b.columbia.edu
cc: cjk@ucl-cs.arpa
Subject: Octopus / Flex Kermit?
Kermiteers:
Anyone working on Kermits for either Octopus or Flex
machines? Both wanted in the UK.
Reply to "cjk@ucl-cs", a valid arpanet address.
Chris Kennington
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