ewf@ihu1m.UUCP (Gene Foster) (12/10/84)
After having gone through many passages of the Bible that things like "Blessed are those who keep my Sabbath" what justification do we give for worshiping on Sunday's rather than on the Sabbath? God instructed us to save the last day of the week for him and ever since way back calanders show Sunday as the first day of the week. It seems to me Jewish people are right in worshiping on the Sabbath but of course wrong by not accepting Christ. Even Christ said to worship, and he himself did, on the Sabbath. Any thoughts on this from other Christians? gene foster ihu1m!ewf
kev@voder.UUCP (Kevin Hoskins) (12/12/84)
> After having gone through many passages of the Bible that things > like "Blessed are those who keep my Sabbath" what justification > do we give for worshiping on Sunday's rather than on the Sabbath? Well Gene, there is a simple, two part answer to your question. Can you find this or similar passages in the New Testament? If they are found only in the Old Testament, they apply to a people under the covenant of the Law. If found in the New Testament, their discussion is a response to people outside of the early church attempting to force the Law and all of its implications on the new Christian believers. In the arguments of the New Testament writers they demonstrate how the death of Jesus Christ fulfilled the requirements of the Law. With these requirements met, Christians are now free in the Lord to worship God, through Jesus as the Intercessor, at any time. Also realize that the early church met almost exclusively in the homes of fellow believers and not in the Temple or synagogue. If they were to keep the Sabbath, why meet and worship in a home and not in the building set up for this purpose? > It seems to me Jewish people are right in worshiping on the Sabbath > but of course wrong by not accepting Christ. Even Christ said to > worship, and he himself did, on the Sabbath. > > gene foster > ihu1m!ewf The Jewish people are right in worshiping on the Sabbeth. They are still choosing to continue to live under the requirements of the Law. Christ himself worshiped on the Sabbeth. He did so as not to violate any part of the Law. Remember, He committed no sin against God or the Law that God gave to the Jewish people, but fulfilled it. Of secondary importance is the tradition of worshiping on Sunday. This is a result of the early church celebrating the bodily (in the flesh, complete with the holes in the hands, feet, and side and the cuts on the forehead) resurrection of Jesus Christ on the Sunday following the Friday crucifiction. Thanks for the chance to respond.
bnapl@burdvax.UUCP (Tom Albrecht) (12/19/84)
In article <ihu1m.152> ewf@ihu1m.UUCP (Gene Foster) writes: >After having gone through many passages of the Bible that things >like "Blessed are those who keep my Sabbath" what justification >do we give for worshiping on Sunday's rather than on the Sabbath? >God instructed us to save the last day of the week for him and >ever since way back calanders show Sunday as the first day of the week. >It seems to me Jewish people are right in worshiping on the Sabbath >but of course wrong by not accepting Christ. Even Christ said to >worship, and he himself did, on the Sabbath. Any thoughts on this >from other Christians? > >gene foster >ihu1m!ewf Many Christian denominations view Sunday as the Sabbath, especially among Presbyterian and Reformed churches. Since God's Law, expressed in the Ten Commandments, is just as applicable to us today, we are still obligated to keep God's Sabbath holy just as we are obligated not to commit adultery or make graven images. The Sabbath was a creation ordinance (1 day of rest in 7) and has never been undone. It was meerly reissued at the time of the Mosaic law. Since the New Testament indicates that early Christians worshipped together on the first day of the week, we have good reason to move the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. -- Tom Albrecht Burroughs Corp. ...{presby|psuvax1|sdcrdcf}!burdvax!bnapl
guy@enmasse.UUCP (Guy K. Hillyer) (12/22/84)
In article <ihu1m.152> ewf@ihu1m.UUCP (Gene Foster) writes: > ...what justification >do we give for worshiping on Sunday's rather than on the Sabbath? I always thought Christians worshipped on Sunday because the alleged resurrection was on a Sunday. -- Guy Hillyer {decvax,linus,harvard!wjh12}!genrad!enmasse!guy
davis@hplabs.UUCP (Jim Davis) (01/04/85)
Tom Albrecht says that Presbyterians view Sunday as the Sabbath. I am not sure what he means by "Presbyterians", I am a member of the United Presbyterian Church and Sunday is the day of worship. It is not the Sabbath. We should still observe the Sabbath. The only reason that one can get by not worshiping on the Sabbath is that you have been freed from the law through Jesus' attonment. That is not to say that you shouldn't observe the law. It is just to point out that although you can't, you can still have faith in salvation. PS. No I am not a minister. Just a congregant. TA> Many Christian denominations view Sunday as the Sabbath, especially TA> among Presbyterian and Reformed churches. Since God's Law, expressed in the TA> Ten Commandments, is just as applicable to us today, we are still obligated TA> to keep God's Sabbath holy just as we are obligated not to commit adultery TA> or make graven images. The Sabbath was a creation ordinance (1 day of rest TA> in 7) and has never been undone. It was meerly reissued at the time of TA> the Mosaic law. TA> TA> Since the New Testament indicates that early Christians worshipped TA> together on the first day of the week, we have good reason to move the TA> Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. TA> Tom Albrecht Burroughs Corp. TA> ...{presby|psuvax1|sdcrdcf}!burdvax!bnapl -- ---------------------------------- Jim Davis (James W Davis) Email: {any_of_the_biggies} !hplabs!davis Arpa: davis%hp-labs@csnet-relay USnail: 1501 Page Mill Rd, Building 3L, Palo Alto, CA 94304 MaBell: (415)857-4036@work ----------------------------------
bnapl@burdvax.UUCP (Tom Albrecht) (01/07/85)
In article <hplabs.1343> davis@hplabs.UUCP (Jim Davis) writes: >Tom Albrecht says that Presbyterians view Sunday as the Sabbath. >I am not sure what he means by "Presbyterians", I am a member >of the United Presbyterian Church and Sunday is the day of >worship. ... Many Presbyterians acknowledge the Westminster Confession of Faith as a standard for church teaching subordinate to the Bible. The Confession devotes an entire chapter to Christian Worship and addresses the issue of the Christian Sabbath. You might ask your minister what the official United Presbyterian position is toward the Westminster Confession. I know that at one time it was held in high regard by UPs, but this may have changed. I happen to be a member of a more conservative Presbyterian denomination (Presbyterian Church in America) and we view the Confession as one of the official teaching documents of our church. > ... It is not the Sabbath. We should still observe the >Sabbath. The only reason that one can get by not worshiping >on the Sabbath is that you have been freed from the law through >Jesus' attonment. ... > When would you suggest we observe the Sabbath, if indeed we should observe it? -- Tom Albrecht Burroughs Corp. ...{presby|psuvax1|sdcrdcf}!burdvax!bnapl