[net.religion.christian] Reply to Glenn Scott / Scriptural Authority - Gods signature.

gary@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (gary w buchholz) (08/20/85)

> = Glenn Scott
>You have much more than just a book that asserts it was not written by
>men... 

  As far as the NT goes, it is not a book but a collection of writings.
  As regards what writings are in the canon and what writings are
  outside the canon such a decision (an accident really) was not made
  (it was forced by the Marcionite heresy) until 400 AD.  Up to that
  point in time there were diverse canonical lists and they remained
  diverse simply because no one could find any real basis for inclusion
  or exclusion.  What was in your particular canon was a matter of
  geography.

  Even after the canon was fixed the greatest church historian of the
  time (Eusebius) was unable to give justification for the content of
  the canon.  Eusebius makes three lists - accepted writings, disputed
  writings and rejected writings.  The writings listed as 'accepted'
  match our canon.  The justification for inclusion was "they have been
  traditionally used".

  Now according to Glenn, the bible was not written by men.  I interpret
  this as meaning that Glenn wishes to imply that it was written by
  God.  If the "bible" (<-this is now a problematic term) is written by
  God then here must lie the criteria of canonical inclusion that
  Eusebius and all other apologists and theologians of the first few
  centuries missed.  That is, each writing in the canon must contain
  the mark, or, signature of God.  Glenn, where is this "signature" of
  God that will allow us to check the decision of the early Christians
  (as they said they knew no principle of selection) such that we may
  distinguish "Scripture" from apocrypha ?

  Where in Matthews gospel does it say that it was written by God, or
  that it was inspired by the Holy Spirit ?  Where in Matthews gospel
  does it say that it is "inerrant" or that it in some way transcends
  the limited interpretive categories (now obsolete) of its age ?  Do
  any of the other gospels claim that they are written by God ?

  Are the individual writings the Word of God because they are in the
  canon or are they in the canon because they are the Word of God.  If
  it is the later case it should be easy for you to tell us by what
  mark or "signature" we can identify such writings.

Glenn, one more thing...

>You have much more than just a book that asserts it was not written
>by men....

>It was written over a period of 1500 years and by all sorts of 
>authors.

Who are "all sorts of authors" who are not men ?

  Gary