paul@phs.UUCP (Paul C. Dolber) (09/11/85)
Some time back, I asked net.religion readers for their responses to Kaufmann's claim (in "Faith of a Heretic") that it was impossible for God to simultaneously be omnipotent, infinitely good, and permit suffering. In response to a query from me, Chuck Hedrick suggested I might be interested in "Encountering Evil: Live Options in Theodicy," edited by Stephen T. Davis (John Knox Press, Atlanta, 1981). As I did find the book interesting, and suspect that others would as well, I here present as brief a "book report" as I can manage. There are 5 Protestant contributors. Each wrote up a presentation of his theodicy; then afterwards each examined the theodicies of the others and wrote critiques; then finally each responded to the critiques of his theodicy. Though the contributors all seem to be neighbors and more or less pals, they didn't pull their punches, and the critiques and responses are fairly lively. --------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. John K. Roth: "A Theodicy of Protest" (JKR is Professor of Philosophy at Claremont Men's College; "a liberal Protestant who writes from an existential perspective that has been heavily influenced by Jewish thinking.") A difficult one to summarize; the one I'm most likely to botch. In short, Roth asserts that God is not perfectly good, but He is omnipotent; it is man's duty to fight evil and to protest against evil -- to God, and for God (i.e., roughly, for God's betterment). He simply cannot believe that this world is the best God can do, and apparently wouldn't be much impressed with Him if this were the best that He could do. 2. John H. Hick: "An Irenaean Theodicy" (JHH is Professor of Philosophy of Religion at Claremont Graduate School.) Central is a "two-stage conception of the creation of humankind, first in the `image' and then in the `likeness' of God." The first stage was the production of man, through evolution, as an intelligent ethical and religious animal. "In [the] second stage, of which we are a part, the intelligent, ethical, and religious animal is being brought through one's own free responses into what Irenaeus called the divine `likeness.'" Perfection lies not in the past (Adam and Eve), but in the future. "(1) The divine intention in relation to humankind... is to create perfect finite personal beings in filial relationship with their Maker. (2) It is logically impossible for humans to be created already in this perfect state... because... it involves coming freely to an uncoerced consciousness of God... and... freely choosing the good in preference to evil. (3) Accordingly, the human being was initially created through the evolutionary process, as a spiritually and morally immature creature, and as part of a world which is both religiously ambiguous and ethically demanding. (4) Thus that one is morally imperfect (i.e., that there is moral evil), and that the world is a challenging and even dangerous environment (i.e., that there is natural evil), are necessary aspects of the present stage of the process through which God is gradually creating perfected finite persons." Hick acknowledges that some of the evil is too awful to see how it is/was necessary, and offers some suggestions, or hopes. Among other things, he believes that their must be an afterlife for some forms of suffering to be justified. 3. Stephen T. Davis: "Free Will and Evil" (STD is Associate Professor of Philosophy and Religion at Claremont Men's College; "an analytic philospher by training and an evangelical Christian by persuasion.") Argues, from a logical point of view, that it is not impossible for God to be simultaneously omnipotent, perfectly good, and permit suffering. A proponent of a (modified?) Free Will Defense, which permits the preceding to be consistent (not mutually exclusive) because the following is "possibly true:" "All the evil that exists in the world is due to the choices of free moral agents whom God created, and no other world which God could have created would have had a better balance of good over evil than the actual world will have." It appears that one of those "free moral agents" is Satan, who is responsible for natural evils (e.g., disease, earthquake, famine; as opposed to moral evils). The critiques get pretty hot. 4. David R. Griffin: "Creation out of Chaos and the Problem of Evil" (DRG is Professor of Philosophy and Religion at the School of Theology at Claremont; a "Process thinker.") My first contact with "Process theology," which I find to be very odd. Seemingly at the center of things are the following propositions: "(1) Those things which cannot deviate much from the divine will [his examples: electrons, atoms, molecules, living cells] also cannot be influenced by God very quickly. (2) Those things which can be influenced by God quickly [e.g., humans] can deviate drastically from the divine will. (3) Those things which can do nothing on their own [e.g., rocks, bodies of water, speeding bullets] cannot be directly influenced by God at all." Thus, God is a great deal less than omnipotent in any ordinary sense of the word. While I find this theodicy bizarre, he did make some nice responses to criticism, e.g.: "Roth mocks my [not very omnipotent] God with the statement that `the best that God could possibly do was to permit 10,000 Jews a day to go up in smoke.' Roth prefers a God who had the power to prevent this Holocaust but did not do it!" 5. Frederick Sontag: "Anthropodicy and the Return of God" (FS is Professor of Philosophy at Pomona College; "writes from the perspective of existential metaphysics.") Another one that's hard to summarize. Like Roth's God, Sontag's seems to be less than perfectly good (from our point of view). Sontag apparently arrives at this conclusion by starting from the observation that there is evil in the world, then asking what God must be like. "We must be dealing with a God who takes great risks and whose mode of control is at best quite loose. We face a God with a policy of non-interference, one who consciously created humans with a greater capacity for evil and destruction than any aim to enhance good can account for. And God did this by rejecting other options open to him, some of which are preferable from a human point of view." "God moves neither easily nor automatically toward intervention in our affairs... We need not decide that God is indifferent to human tragedy, but we know that, even in the face of extreme need, he can restrain his impulse to intervene physically." "My position certainly does make God responsible for the devilish aspects we find in the world, and it requires that any sense of goodness in God be compatible with this." Sontag takes a lot of heat in the critiques for making God less than good -- from our point of view -- and is asked how Christians should relate to such a God. Sontag returns the heat, and more, in his response, and closes: "[T]o make God appear too obvious, too comfortable, too secure, flies in the face of the apostasy and religious agony that has broken out over the last centuries." And, as he wrote earlier, "We do not begin with God and then discover the problem of evil. Rather, evil blocks our consideration of God in the first place." --------------------------------------------------------------------- Despite the considerable length of this "book report," there is an awful lot I've left out and, no doubt, a lot that I've oversimplified or outright misstated. Such is life. I do think that the viewpoints of the contributors are presented at least well enough that one could fairly accurately decide whether the book would be of interest to him or her, which was my intent. Please do not forward questions to me about the book; I've returned it to the Divinity School, and now you can check it out. One final note: None of the contributors, obviously, took the position that some of my correspondents took: That it is not proper to ask such questions about God, He being perfect and we as dirt beneath His feet. Such does not apply to me (an atheist). However, I really don't think that such applies to Christians or other theists either. Of course, that's just what the devil's advocate *would* say. Regards, Paul Dolber ( ...{ihnp4, decvax, mcnc} !duke!phs!paul).