[net.religion.christian] The Trinity: an extremist Western explanation

hedrick@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Charles Hedrick) (09/22/86)

It appears to be time for my annual lecture on the Trinity.  This
doctrine is not a mathematical mystery.  At least in the Western
tradition, we not trying to bend your mind to the point where you
think 3 = 1 (as unfortunately presentations of the doctrine all too
often try to do).  In the West, the Trinity is seen primarily as a
matter of relationship.  (Lest you think I am preaching some modern
Liberalism, let me note that this all goes back to Augustine, shortly
after 400 A.D.)  That is, we say God is love.  But how could there be
love within a single entity?  Of course a unitary God could love human
beings.  But that would imply that love was in some sense "foreign" to
God, i.e. that it was not possible for him until something outside of
him existed to love.  However Christians believe that God is calling
us into a relationship of love that is an eternal part of God's own
life.  Consider also the gift that Christ gives us.  We are called to
a life of joyful obedience.  Again, it might be that this obedience is
something that entered the universe only when creatures appeared,
since until then there was nobody who needed to obey.  But Christians
believe that our entire relationship with God is itself a gift from
God.  Christ is the only one who could really carry out the human role
fully.  We do so only to the extent that we live through him.  But
Christians see Christ as God made visible.  So what are we to
conclude?  It is that God must not be as simple as one might first
think.  He has within him the relationship of love.  He has within him
that which obeys as well as that which is master.  In short, the
relationship of love into which he calls us is something that is
intrinsic to him.  For Augustine, and much of the Western tradition,
this is the heart of the Trinity.  We tend to start with the concept
of God as one, and add just as much internal definition as it takes to
get the ability to have a relationship within God.  Unfortunately,
when Augustine was writing (around 400), the concept "relationship"
was not as well understood as it is now (either in mathematics or in
human relationships).  So he spends a lot of time talking around his
subject and giving analogies.  But it is fairly clear that for him the
3 Persons are defined solely by their mutual relationship.  Consider:
"It was shown that not all that is predicated of God denotes
substance, as do the predicates "good" and "great" and any others
denoting what he is in himself; but that there are also predicates of
relation, denoting not what he is in himself but what he is in
relation to something which is not himself; as he is called Father in
relation to the Son, or Lord in relation to the creature that is
subject to him." (De Trinitate, XV, 5 (iii), summarizing the argument
of chap V) So "there is a trinity of mutually related persons and a
unity of equal substance." (De Trinitate, IX, 1) The rest of book IX
meanders about trying to give us a better idea of what he means by
things being mutually related.  It is that they are constituted only
by their relationship to each other.

The argument so far might seem to lead to a binity, rather than a
trinity.  However the Holy Spirit is also part of the relationship.
To characterize him in a single sentence, I would quote Augustine:
"..his being suggests to us that mutual charity whereby the Father and
the Son love one another." (De Trinitate, XV, 27 (xvii))

I should warn you that the explanation I have just given is in some
sense an extremist Western explanation.  As the West tends to start
with one God and derive the Persons from relationship, the East tends
to start with three Persons, and show that they constitute a single
God.  It seems to me that the 3 = 1 arguments are far more appropriate
in the Eastern context.  However I am so far from being able to
understand the Eastern view that I am not even going to try to
summarize it.  Any time I try it comes out as tritheism, but I have it
on good authority that it was not intended that way.

cc100jr@gitpyr.UUCP (Joel Rives) (09/24/86)

Which Eastern view were you referring to?


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                                               Joel Rives
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