trb@drutx.UUCP (BuckleyTR) (01/16/85)
Ok folks, I really was glad to see the mail I got from people thanking me for posting some software for Macs last weekend. But I get really annoyed at mail from these self-appointed net administrators, like these: >From: ihnp4!utah-cs!swt@utah-gr.UTAH-CS.ARPA (Spencer W. Thomas) >To: ihnp4!drutx!trb >Subject: Re: Animated Christmas Card (late, but worth posting!) >Newsgroups: net.micro.mac > >A number of the MAC programs you posted appeared on this list no longer >than a month ago. Pretty short time for a reposting. > >=Spencer >({ihnp4,decvax}!utah-cs!thomas, thomas@utah-cs.ARPA) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Look Spencer, not every site gets all the news, and we didn't even get net.micro.mac until two weeks ago! And on top of that, many thanked me for these postings - they obviously didn't have them. I received some stupid mail like yours a week ago. Pretty short time for getting more... And now, to another self-appointed net.administrator: --- > >From: ihnp4!wucs!plus5!hokey >Subject: Re: Disk Drive Test utility program > >Please post sources to a sources newsgroup! Thanks! > >Hokey ------------------------------------------------------------------ Please post your mail to /dev/null where it will be appreciated! Thanks! So there! Tom Buckley AT&T Information Systems (303) 538-3442 ihnp4!drutx!trb
hokey@plus5.UUCP (Hokey) (01/17/85)
> And now, to another self-appointed net.administrator: > --- > > > >From: ihnp4!wucs!plus5!hokey > >Subject: Re: Disk Drive Test utility program > > > >Please post sources to a sources newsgroup! Thanks! > > > >Hokey > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please post your mail to /dev/null where it will be appreciated! Thanks! > > So there! I would apologize for not thanking you for posting the sources, but I regret to say I don't really feel like it anymore. My request was sent primarily because there are *many* sites on the net which like to archive sources so people can find them without requesting a resubmission from anybody. By not posting to a sources newsgroup, you undermine a mechanism specifically designed to assist the very same people you attempt to reach via a single posting to a non-sources newsgroup. Is it that hard to add "net.sources" to the Newsgroups: list? -- Hokey ..ihnp4!plus5!hokey 314-725-9492
tracy@hcrvx1.UUCP (Tracy Tims) (01/17/85)
Ah, another net person proudly flaunting their immaturity and rudeness. It
is (I assure you) possible to disagree with something a person sends you
without ridiculing them in public.
I feel that an important feature of Usenet's continued success will have
to be the development of common courtesy. Otherwise we will descend to the
level of a BBS for grade school students.
Yes, Tom Buckley, you can probably write me off as yet another self
appointed net busybody.
Tracy Tims {linus,allegra,decvax}!watmath!...
Human Computing Resources Corporation {ihnp4,utzoo}!...
Toronto, Ontario, Canada. 416 922-1937 ...hcr!hcrvx1!tracychuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuqui Q. Koala) (01/18/85)
>But I get really annoyed at mail from these self-appointed >net administrators, like these: >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Look Spencer, not every site gets all the news, and we didn't even >get net.micro.mac until two weeks ago! And on top of that, many thanked >me for these postings - they obviously didn't have them. I received some >stupid mail like yours a week ago. Pretty short time for getting >more... > >And now, to another self-appointed net.administrator: >Please post your mail to /dev/null where it will be appreciated! Thanks! Rather than attempt to restate what I just stated in net.news, please take an indirect pointer to my comments about Stargate over there. The above is a great example of the mindless flaming I was talking about. It is also a great reason for us to quit bickering and get the damned mac sources topic created. I don't give a damn whether it is mod.sources.mac or net.sources.mac, although if we can ever agree on moderation I'll moderate the damn thing. I'm trying to find time to set up an archive for usenet so that continuing repostings won't be neccessary, but if people are going to randomly bitch at attempts at constructive comments, I'm not sure I'll bother. I've also talked to someone at Apple about coordinating getting the software they post to Compuserve also onto usenet, and acting as an archive for that stuff, too. Why, at this moment in time, I don't really know. Usenet, in case you hadn't noticed, survives only on the continued cooperation of the component parts. Yelling at each other isn't cooperation. It also doesn't accomplish anything. Can we try to lower the tones of our voices long enough to talk about the things that need to be talked about and get something done once in a while? the fascist pig. -- From the ministry of silly talks: Chuq Von Rospach {allegra,cbosgd,decwrl,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!nsc!chuqui nsc!chuqui@decwrl.ARPA Do not wait until tomorrow to tell someone you care. Tomorrow doesn't always come.
eric@plus5.UUCP (Eric W. Kiebler) (01/30/85)
> And now, to another self-appointed net.administrator: > --- > > > >From: ihnp4!wucs!plus5!hokey > >Subject: Re: Disk Drive Test utility program > > > >Please post sources to a sources newsgroup! Thanks! > > > >Hokey > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please post your mail to /dev/null where it will be appreciated! Thanks! > > So there! > > Tom Buckley > AT&T Information Systems > (303) 538-3442 > ihnp4!drutx!trb Tom, We really do appreciate your source postings, honest. I think it is really swell when my cat has kittens. I don't much care for it when my cat has kittens on my kitchen table as opposed to the nice place in the basement where everything is all ready for kitten production. We archive net.sources.mac, and we don't archive net.micro.mac. We would like to, but disk resources are low. I assume that you posted the material so that people might profit from it; in the same spirit, please post sources to net.sources.mac where people expect them. Cheers, eric -- eric ihnp4!wucs!gang!eric $100/hr: Consider it standard.
jimb@amdcad.UUCP (Jim Budler) (02/01/85)
In article <538@plus5.UUCP> eric@plus5.UUCP (Eric W. Kiebler) writes: >Tom, > > We really do appreciate your source postings, honest. I think it >is really swell when my cat has kittens. I don't much care for it when >my cat has kittens on my kitchen table as opposed to the nice place in the >basement where everything is all ready for kitten production. > > We archive net.sources.mac, and we don't archive net.micro.mac. We >would like to, but disk resources are low. I assume that you posted the >material so that people might profit from it; in the same spirit, please >post sources to net.sources.mac where people expect them. Not disagree with your intent, but this round of flaming was a long time ago and two changes have occured. 1) net.sources.mac came into existence AFTER the postings. (Maybe even because of them). 2) Tom already apologized. I do, however want to say that only 6 or 7 months ago the flaming was ALL in the other direction when people were posting uuencoded binaries to net.sources, and everyone told them to send them to individual groups. Specifically, binaries for the IBM P.C. were directed to net.micro.pc and tohexes for the mac to net.micro.mac. Now the net.micro people want it to go the other way. -- Jim Budler Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (408) 982-6547 UUCPnet: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amd!jimb Compuserve: 72415,1200 The Source: STW265
eric@plus5.UUCP (Eric W. Kiebler) (02/03/85)
Sorry! News propogates in mysterious ways. I responded before looking at the date. Mea culpa, mea culpa. (Did I really flame him? Oops.) Thanks for the sources, Tom! eric -- ..!ihnp4!wucs!gang!eric "Lo! Men have become the tool of their tools." -- Thoreau