chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) (02/05/85)
I've been hacking around with Mac C the last couple of nights trying to get
a useful environment put together for hacking, and I through I'd drop a
couple of comments out there for the unwary:
o As it stands, you can't install macsbug in the system and run Edit.
This means you need to keep two system folders (on separate disks, of
course)-- one for development and one for debugging. It also means you
can't debug and play with sources without going through a reboot to
reinitialize memory. This is for a 128K Mac-- I assume half a meg fixes
this problem, but I haven't been able to upgrade yet.
o If you use 'Erase Disk' (there doesn't seem to be a way to
reinitialize an initialized disk without using Disk Copy-- have to look
at that), make sure that you eject the disk to completely update the
information on it-- I spent half an hour tonight tracking down a
problem where I was getting alert boxes telling me that my disk had
minor problems and all my folders were going away. Evidently not all
information is written to the disk when you do this, and if you just
hit the 'reset' button it gets lots. The best alternative is to use
'Eject and Reset' religiously.
I'm interested in what other people are doing in terms of single machine
development-- I'm not using Sumacc because i don't want to get into
potential conflicts of interest later on if I try to sell stuff developed
on my companies Vax (I doubt they'd mind, but I like playing it straight--
besides, I bought my mac so I didn't always have to use the silly vax, high
load averages and all) and I'm very interested in hearing what other people
are doing on their machines. I'm using Mac C from consulair, which has a
preliminary version of Apple's Macintosh Development System on it, which,
to my eyes, isn't terribly preliminary-- it is significantly better than a
lot of already commercial products I can think of, and well worth the
price. From my cursory looks, it seems pretty close to sumacc, so I might
start playing with getting some of those posted sources running on it to
try things out.
chuq
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Life, the Universe, and lots of other stuff is a trademark of AT&T Bell Labsjimb@amd.UUCP (Jim Budler) (02/06/85)
In article <> chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) writes: > o If you use 'Erase Disk' (there doesn't seem to be a way to > reinitialize an initialized disk without using Disk Copy-- have to look > at that), make sure that you eject the disk to completely update the > information on it The MacTools that come with Copy II Mac include the ability to explicitly format a disk. In addition to this there is a function very much like a subset of Fedit version 2 from John Mitchel, a slow but accurate copy routine which doesn't give up at the first error ( potentially useful for data recovery ) and, of course, the nibble and sector copy protect defeating program. I believe one of the abilities of the mac disk test which passed here a short while ago was to format a disk. -- Jim Budler Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (408) 749-5806 UUCPnet: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amd!jimb Compuserve: 72415,1200