harrow@exodus.DEC (Jeff Harrow NCSE TWO/E92 DTN=247-3134) (04/09/85)
Writing a program for the Mac environment is highly rewarding in terms of
satisfaction and ease of use of the resultant program but, in most COMPILED
languages that I've seen, it requires an ENORMOUS amount of work to initially
create and then maintain the whole Mac environment.
However, several of the INTERPRETERS on the market, notably Microsoft Basic
V2.0 and MacPascal, seem to offer the ability to use windows, controls, menus,
etc. in a rather straightforward manner.
Has anyone seen a COMPILER which performs the same 'ease of programming'
services, hence allowing the programmer to concentrate on his PROGRAM rather
than on the innards of the Mac, while still gaining the execution speed and
independence of a native mode program?
Jeff Harrow
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Tewksbury, MA 01876edmoy@ucbopal.CC.Berkeley.ARPA (04/10/85)
At one of the Macintosh Developer's Seminar that Apple gives, I heard that they are working on a "standard" applications package that does all of the tedious window, menu, etc. stuff for you and lets you work on the actual application-specific part. I don't remember when they were going to have it finished, but I think sometime this year. Edward Moy Computing Services University of California Berkeley, CA 94720 edmoy@ucbopal.APRA ucbvax!ucbopal!edmoy
jwp@utah-cs.UUCP (John W Peterson) (04/11/85)
> Has anyone seen a COMPILER which performs the same 'ease of programming' > services... while still gaining the execution speed and independence of > a native mode program? Translation: you want to have your cake, and eat it too. About the best way I know of to go about this is to first get a "basic" application running, such as a simple multi-window text editor. Once you get this sort of basic shell working (and as *clean* and bug free as you can) developing stuff on top of it becomes relativly painless. Relativly. Apple is working on a fancy version of this (the "expandable application") that is supposed to be very complete. It's written with their object-Pascal. I think the optimum though, would be something as fancy as Apple's two-Mac debugger that knew about high-level languages. (What I would give to have Apollo's window debugger available in that environment...)
cam2@ur-univax.UUCP (04/11/85)
I have gotten a chance to use MacApp, and with about 2 weeks of experience
my opinion is that MacApp will do for Macintosh programmers what Macintosh
did for computer users.
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