morrist@unc.UUCP (Tom Morris ) (05/07/85)
[ If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is! ] I am sitting here next to a box which claims to have a "Macintosh" XL in it. This box is going back to the store which sold it. The machine in this box is a //LISA-2/10//! Calling it a "Macintosh" does not MAKE it a Macintosh. There is this little 2" sticker on the Lisa-2 owners manual that came with my "Macintosh", which says "Lisa is now Macintosh XL"! I could hardly believe this doublespeak coming from the same company which ran the "1984" ads for the Mac. It borders on the obscene; calling the machine a Mac borders on fraud. The screen update which would make the pixel resolution the same as the Mac will be available ``in June'' (for a machine which has been discontinued two months after announcement :-( ). The CORRECT version of MacWorks for the Lisa-2/10 (err, MAC XL ???) is shipping ``now''. Be sure that if you want a Mac XL that you get the screen update, and the correct MacWorks. It still wont be an honest-to-goodness "Macintosh" (Not all the same hardware and firmware is there: some of QuickDraw is missing, for example ---that MIGHT be fixed w/ the new version of MacWorks.) In any event, we're getting a REAL Mac (sans hard disk), and welcome any hard disk suggestions, especially concerning compatability with future rom Finder updates. There will shortly be one more "XL" for someone else to agonize over. --- Tom Morris UNC School of Public Health (919) 966-5106 [ These opinions do not represent anything other than frustration. ] On real Macs, circles are circles and ovals are ovals. On others, ovals are circles and circles are ovals. Macintosh XL ?
mark@apple.UUCP (Mark Lentczner) (05/17/85)
-=- > (Not all the same hardware > and firmware is there: some of QuickDraw is missing, for example Not true. All of the Toolbox is available on a Macintosh XL. I personally have used Quickdraw on the XL and it is all there and it all works. I have found that my XL will run software without problems with the exception of some public domain games and such that rely on memory locations and other hardware quirks and don't go through the proper interfaces. (Speed goes with kludgeness :-)). Anyway I hope that you don't really bring your new XL back without just because it looks just like a Lisa 2/10. After all, the Lisa wasn't such a bad machine (:-))... -- --Mark Lentczner Apple Computer UUCP: {nsc, dual, voder, ios}!apple!mark CSNET: mark@Apple.CSNET