[net.micro.mac] The so-called "Macintosh" XL

morrist@unc.UUCP (Tom Morris ) (05/07/85)

[ If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is! ]

	I am sitting here next to a box which claims
to have a "Macintosh" XL in it. This box is going back
to the store which sold it. The machine in this box is 
a //LISA-2/10//! Calling it a "Macintosh" does not 
MAKE it a Macintosh.

	There is this little 2" sticker on the Lisa-2
owners manual that came with my "Macintosh", which says
"Lisa is now Macintosh XL"! I could hardly believe this
doublespeak coming from the same company which ran the
"1984" ads for the Mac. It borders on the obscene; calling
the machine a Mac borders on fraud.

	The screen update which would make the pixel 
resolution the same as the Mac will be available ``in June''
(for a machine which has been discontinued two months after
announcement :-(  ). The CORRECT version of MacWorks for the
Lisa-2/10 (err, MAC XL ???) is shipping ``now''.

	Be sure that if you want a Mac XL that you get the
screen update, and the correct MacWorks. It still wont be
an honest-to-goodness "Macintosh" (Not all the same hardware
and firmware is there: some of QuickDraw is missing, for example
---that MIGHT be fixed w/ the new version of MacWorks.)

	In any event, we're getting a REAL Mac (sans hard disk),
and welcome any hard disk suggestions, especially concerning 
compatability with future rom Finder updates. There will shortly
be one more "XL" for someone else to agonize over.

--- Tom Morris
    UNC School of Public Health
    (919) 966-5106

	[ These opinions do not represent anything other
		than frustration. ]

	On real Macs, circles are circles and ovals are ovals.
		On others, ovals are circles and circles are
			ovals.

	Macintosh XL ? 

mark@apple.UUCP (Mark Lentczner) (05/17/85)

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>   (Not all the same hardware
>   and firmware is there: some of QuickDraw is missing, for example

Not true.  All of the Toolbox is available on a Macintosh XL.  I
personally have used Quickdraw on the XL and it is all there and
it all works.  I have found that my XL will run software without
problems with the exception of some public domain games and such
that rely on memory locations and other hardware quirks and don't
go through the proper interfaces.  (Speed goes with kludgeness :-)).

Anyway I hope that you don't really bring your new XL back without
just because it looks just like a Lisa 2/10.  After all, the Lisa
wasn't such a bad machine (:-))...


-- 
--Mark Lentczner
  Apple Computer

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