brian@digi-g.UUCP (Merlyn Leroy) (06/03/85)
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The new finder (4.1) is pretty good, with just a few gripes:
1) Window stats (#items in file, #K used, etc) is not in boldface anymore.
Boldface makes the stats distinct from filenames. Now they are in the same
font.
2) Put Back is gone. I never use it, but some people did.
3) A bug: when I have a folder open, and the window covers the folder icon
(i.e. you open the folder and it opens up, covering the original folder icon),
the arrow cursor changes to the I-bar text cursor when it is over the obscured
folder's name. It should only do this if the icon is in the active window.
4) Another bug: New empty folders & opening the trash, etc, have a thumbslide
at the bottom, as if there is something off the left side of the window.
Scrolling left reveals nothing and makes the thumbslide vanish.
5) YAB: Having NO visible desk accessories (just .printer, in my case) makes
it crash & burn. You need at least 1 visible desktop entry. Try it.
Took me a while to figure that it wasn't me, it was the new finder.
(I would like independant confirmation of this). Please fix this one.
I sometimes like making minimal finder/systems with no DA's, and only
required fonts.
6) Monaco 9 still shows O & 0 identically, I & l (with | not much different).
Also, the X is still ugly. Slash that zero! Cap that 'I'! Tote that barge!
(oh well, I fixed it myself)
Good stuff:
1) New Folder instead of an empty folder lying around. Something good they
stole from GEM
2) A little 'lock' appears in the stat line of a locked folder's window.
3) Faster, etc., also the automatic thumbslide vanishing (see above)
4) You can move, edit names, etc, of files listed non-iconically
Merlyn Leroy
Iconoclaststro@ur-univax.UUCP (06/06/85)
I agree, 4.1 is a much better version. Further, I think some of your 'bugs'
are not bugs, but good features. 'Bug' #1: well who cares if they're
distinct from file names; it's not too confusing since they're not in the
window with the icons. I think this is a nice, non-offensive, easily
recognizable difference between the new and old finders which makes their
indentification much easier. Since I have many disks, its nice to be able
to tell just from lokking at the desktop, if I need to update that finder or
not.
'Bug' #3: The cursor is a very nice, fast way to tell if a file, folder,
or document is locked. This feature should be added so that it works all the
time for all windows.
You are correct about the finder needing at least one DA to work. A short
term 'solution' is just to put in something very small like the notepad.
maybe someone out there could write a mock accessory which does nothing but
take up less than 100 bytes.
- SR at U of R
chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) (06/07/85)
>2) Put Back is gone. I never use it, but some people did. I never met anyone who used it. I remember hearing that Apple did some checking around, and they never found anyone who used it, either. Anyone out there use it? Do you miss it? Mail to me and I"ll summarize... >5) YAB: Having NO visible desk accessories (just .printer, in my case) makes >it crash & burn. You need at least 1 visible desktop entry. Try it. This is actually documented in the Font/DA mover. If you try to delete all of the DA's, it will let you know that the system dies if you try it and force you to leave on in (only for files named 'system'). Not a bug, just makes handling DA's easier since there isn't a null case, and I can't think of much reason why, with their utility, you wouldn't want at least one. I guess apple thinks that way, too... >I sometimes like making minimal finder/systems with no DA's, and only >required fonts. I find that I always leave in the 'idle' DA written by Larry rosentein. That way, if I leave the machine for any length of time, I can blank the screen, and it only takes up a K or so. -- :From the misfiring synapses of: Chuq Von Rospach {cbosgd,fortune,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!nsc!chuqui nsc!chuqui@decwrl.ARPA The offices were very nice, and the clients were only raping the land, and then, of course, there was the money...
jimb@amdcad.UUCP (Jim Budler) (06/07/85)
In article <16500024@ur-univax.UUCP> stro@ur-univax.UUCP writes: >You are correct about the finder needing at least one DA to work. A short >term 'solution' is just to put in something very small like the notepad. >maybe someone out there could write a mock accessory which does nothing but >take up less than 100 bytes. I keep the New Idle DA on my minimum system. It's small (a few hundred bytes), and a screensaver is always useful, even on single purpose system disks. -- Jim Budler Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (408) 749-5806 UUCPnet: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amdcad!jimb Compuserve: 72415,1200 "... Don't sue me, I'm just the piano player!...."