[net.micro.mac] Clip version of hyperdrive?

evans@mhuxt.UUCP (crandall) (07/09/85)

Apple's approval of the hyperdrive mentions the clip mount version of
that product. Does anyone have any info on what that means -- do they
have some sort of clip that attaches to the logic board without
soldering?

				Steve Crandall
				ihnp4!mhuxt!evans

cjn@calmasd.UUCP (Cheryl Nemeth) (07/11/85)

When did apple approve the Hyperdrive?  Is this now the
official hard disk for the Mac?

vishniac@wanginst.UUCP (Ephraim Vishniac) (07/15/85)

> Apple's approval of the hyperdrive mentions the clip mount version of
> that product. Does anyone have any info on what that means -- do they
> have some sort of clip that attaches to the logic board without
> soldering?
> 
> 				Steve Crandall
> 				ihnp4!mhuxt!evans

Yes.  The clip fits over the 68000 chip.  My understanding is that the
original 68000 chip is electrically disabled (so that it doesn't get
*very hot* under the clip).  Presumably, another 68000 on the piggyback
board substitutes for it.

I have not seen the new model Hyperdrive, but I have seen the clip and
discussed its application.

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werner@ut-ngp.UTEXAS (Werner Uhrig) (07/16/85)

"the clip" is what made HyperDrive acceptable to Apple, I suspect.

whereas before, GCC removed the 68000 from the digital board (and did some
other things giving Jobs nightmares), now that is no longer necessary, as
now "the clip" simply is attached to the 68000, making contact to all the
pins.

BUT:  there still is TOO MUCH HEAT generated by all that additional
	hardware inside the case, so I am eagerly looking forward to
	seeing what one can hook up to the "any-day-now" external hook-ups
	to the internal bus.

my recommendation:  get a 1 or 2 Meg upgrade, a fan, and look forward to
	an external connector to the internal bus.

vishniac@wanginst.UUCP (Ephraim Vishniac) (07/17/85)

> > Apple's approval of the hyperdrive mentions the clip mount version of
> > that product. Does anyone have any info on what that means -- do they
> > have some sort of clip that attaches to the logic board without
> > soldering?
> > 
> Yes.  The clip fits over the 68000 chip.  My understanding is that the
> original 68000 chip is electrically disabled (so that it doesn't get
> *very hot* under the clip).  Presumably, another 68000 on the piggyback
> board substitutes for it.
> 
> I have not seen the new model Hyperdrive, but I have seen the clip and
> discussed its application.
> 
> Ephraim Vishniac

I stand corrected (by two GCC employees).  The clip version of Hyperdrive
does not disable the original CPU chip, and they do not have any problem
with heat dissipation.  Even with the clip, etc., the CPU chip remains
at least as cool as in an unmodified Mac (I'm told).

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dws@tolerant.UUCP (Dave W. Smith) (07/19/85)

> Yes.  The clip fits over the 68000 chip.  My understanding is that the
> original 68000 chip is electrically disabled (so that it doesn't get
> *very hot* under the clip).  Presumably, another 68000 on the piggyback
> board substitutes for it.

My understanding is that the clip merely extends the bus.
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vishniac@wanginst.UUCP (Ephraim Vishniac) (07/22/85)

> > > Apple's approval of the hyperdrive mentions the clip mount version of
> > > that product. Does anyone have any info on what that means...
> > > 
> > Yes.  The clip fits over the 68000 chip.  My understanding is that the
> > original 68000 chip is electrically disabled (so that it doesn't get
> > *very hot* under the clip).  Presumably, another 68000 on the piggyback
> > board substitutes for it.
> 
> I stand corrected (by two GCC employees).  The clip version of Hyperdrive
> does not disable the original CPU chip...

Make that *three* GCC employees.  Can't slip anything past those guys.

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