al@aurora.UUCP (Al Globus) (09/10/85)
Productivity Products Inc. is porting Objective C to Mac using Aztec C as the target compiler (Objective C is a pre-processor). Unfortunately, some people in the company do not want to release a product because they believe there is little market. The basic technical work will 'be done in a few weeks'. I would like to have Objective C on the Mac. If you would too, write or call PPI Marketing 27 Glen Road Sandy Hook, CT 06482 (203) 426-1875 Objective C is a preprocessor for C that adds the SMALLTALK constructs object, message, and inheritance to C. All of C is available to the Objective C user, as well as much of SMALLTALK. This style of programming, called object programming, is very nice. I would hate to go back to functions and data structures. If there is interest, I will elaborate on what Objective C does. For now, I'll just say that it revolutionized my C programming ...
berger@datacube.UUCP (09/20/85)
The rumors I have heard from reliable sources are:
They are waiting for an Official Apple C compiler before they release
the MacIntosh Objective C tools. The Apple C compiler is over 7
months late. Now we all know about Official Apple Software that is
late sometimes never happens (ie MacBasic). Objective C is working
with Aztec C. A student at Drexel U ported it in a few weeks.
My feeling is that PPI in general is BLOWING IT BIG. The Objective C
compiler is indeed revolutionary. It is the bridge between today and
tommorow (structured programming and object oriented programming).
Their pricing structure makes it difficult to impossible for normal
humans or frugal corporations to work with it.
They just need to get it out to a critical mass of people and make it
inexpensive enough to be affordable in a prototype environment. It
will take off and transform the way people are writting programs.
They could be very rich.
But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
They wait for Apple to screw them with another dropped compiler.
They charge $5000 / user on unix systems. (NOTE: It will be < $500
on the Mac)
They should be giving it away to universities!
It should be on the Mac TODAY! Objective C and the Mac were meant
for each other.
Bob Berger
Datacube Inc. 4 Dearborn Rd. Peabody, Ma 01960 617-535-6644
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{mit-eddie,cyb0vax}!mirror!datacube!bergeral@ames.UUCP (Al Globus) (10/01/85)
> > The rumors I have heard from reliable sources are: > > They are waiting for an Official Apple C compiler before they release > the MacIntosh Objective C tools. They quit waiting and are now hosting on Aztec C. They have not decided to release a product. Call (203) 426-1875 or write PPI, 27 Glen Road, Sandy Hook, CT, 06482 and tell them to release this system as soon as possible! > > My feeling is that PPI in general is BLOWING IT BIG. The Objective C > compiler is indeed revolutionary. It is the bridge between today and > tommorow (structured programming and object oriented programming). > Their pricing structure makes it difficult to impossible for normal > humans or frugal corporations to work with it. I couldn't agree more. I've told them several times to lower the price if they really want to make it big. > They charge $5000 / user on unix systems. (NOTE: It will be < $500 > on the Mac) Last prices I heard are $1000 on the Sun, $10000 on a VAX. No per user pricing. My data is very recent (we're in procurement). They will also give some customers a 60 DAY FREE DEMO of the system. This is a great thing. Take advantage of it. > > They should be giving it away to universities! > They do have a University discount. UCSC got it for $1000 on their VAX, mostly 'cause they only had $1000 to spend. Talk to the salesman, they are flexible. > It should be on the Mac TODAY! Objective C and the Mac were meant > for each other. > Hear, Hear.