usenet@ucbvax.ARPA (USENET News Administration) (10/16/85)
I have a problem. Apple has just delivered to me a second, non-working, used, Lisa (or MacXL) if you prefer. These things are not supposed to be used, and/or non-working. I'm buying as a developer. From: mazlack@ucbernie.BERKELEY.EDU (Lawrence J. &) Path: ucbernie!mazlack What I would like to know is: How can I tell if it is the most current hardware? I know that there was a new chip that was put in when it became the XL. But, I don't know where or what it is. Neither does my friendly Apple dealer/repair person. Of course, I could just trust Apple, but that hasn't worked out very well so far ...Larry Mazlack MAZLACK@UCBERNIE.EDU
sumacc@uwmacc.UUCP (Rick Keir) (10/18/85)
(Lawrence J. Mazlack) writes: > How can I tell if it is the most current hardware? >I know that there was a new chip that was put in when it became the XL. Steve Jobs is a wondrous man: he had only to announce the Mac XL, and instantly the Lisa 2/10s all over the country were transformed into Macintoshes. Apple did not change *anything* about the Lisa when it was announced as the XL. However, there is supposed to be a fix for the video board to alter the screen to be closer in size to the Mac. As far as I know, the XL was out of stock before it became available, so it is a modification you must get later, not something that would have been shipped if you'd bought a newer machine. -- Rick Keir -- MicroComputer Information Center, Rm 3130 MACC 1210 West Dayton St/U Wisconsin Madison/Mad WI 53706 {allegra, ihnp4, seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!sumacc (OR) uwvax!uwmacc!rick
mazlack@ernie.BERKELEY.EDU (Lawrence J. &) (10/22/85)
>> How can I tell if it is the most current hardware? >>I know that there was a new chip that was put in when it became the XL. > Steve Jobs is a wondrous man: he had only to announce the >Mac XL, and instantly the Lisa 2/10s all over the country were >transformed into Macintoshes. Apple did not change *anything* >about the Lisa when it was announced as the XL. > However, there is supposed to be a fix for the video >board to alter the screen to be closer in size to the Mac. >As far as I know, the XL was out of stock before it became >available, so it is a modification you must get later, not >something that would have been shipped if you'd bought a newer >machine. >-- >Rick Keir -- MicroComputer Information Center, Rm 3130 MACC Funny how Apple users have this real love/hate feeling toward the company: love the hardware, but hate much of how the company operates. Well, this doesn't really answer my query. Apple has just sent me a Lisa (which I suspect is not quite new). As it won't power up, it is over at my friendly dealer getting worked on (putting in a new power supply hasn't done the job). As this machine is supposedly, fresh, new, out of the box, the video chip enhancement should have been made. However, as the Lisa Apple shipped me in August,1985 didn't have it, there is no reason to believe that this one will either (the MacXL was announced sometime around February, 1985). If someone out there can tell me what the chip change is, I maybe able to get it put in (my friendly dealer professes ignorance). By the way, they are not shipping Lisa 2/10s, but Lisa 2s with a 10meg profile. The difference being that the 2/10 had an internal 10 meg hard disk. Why the difference, I don't have a clue. Also by the way, I really like the Lisa/MacXL. The one I bought in 1984 (a Lisa 2/5) is just great. It made no sense to cancel the product just after they renamed it and started to sell it at a more rational price. It still is about the only way to do serious development for the Mac. ...Larry
adams1@gumby.UUCP (10/24/85)
I don't know if this answers your question or not but I know that some of the Lisas (I mean X-Lisas) had a battery in them (for the clock) and some don't. I think the older ones did, and the newer ones don't, but I'm not sure. One way to tell if your has a battery is to unplug it (not just shut if off) and, after a while, plug it back in and check the Alarm Clock. ---Dennis Adams !uwvax!gumby!adams1
lsr@apple.UUCP (Larry Rosenstein) (10/29/85)
(I believe that the following information is correct, but I haven't
verified it recently.)
No Lisas/Macintosh XLs were manufactured with the square pixel
modification. The square pixel kit has only been available for about
a month now; the last Macintosh XL was built many months ago.
Anyone who wants the square pixel modification must get it from a
dealer. Ask your dealer to check through the recent AppleGrams,
which are a series of newsletters sent to dealers announcing new
products. The square pixel kit should have appeared in the AppleGram
about dated September 15th.
If you plan on using your Macintosh XL for Macintosh development, then
you should realize that the screen modification kit will not work with
the Workshop environment. The kit changes the number of pixels in
each row of the screen which confuses the Workshop. If you plan on
using one of the native development systems under MacWorks, then there
is no problem installing the screen modification.
--
Larry Rosenstein
Apple Computer
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