[net.micro.mac] 68020+68881 in a mac?

larryh@tekcbi.UUCP (Larry Hutchinson) (12/18/85)

For the brave & rich hacker:

	I just received a data sheet on a mezzanine board containing a 68020
	and a 68881 that plugs into a normal 68000's 64 pin dip socket.
	The board is 2.5" by 3.2" by 0.3".  The price was not given but I
	would guess it is steep (>$1000).  Those who are interested should
	contact:
		IO Inc.
		2430 N. Huachuca Dr.
		Tucson, Arizona 85745
		(602) 792-0969
	
	Please note the following possible problems:
		1)  The mac's 68000 is soldered in. No socket.
		2)  The exception stacking is different for the 68020.  Mac
		    software may break.
		3)  The main advantage that the 68020 brings is the higher
		    clock rate (up to 20MHz) and the 32 bit bus.  Neither
		    is applicable.  (But I would love to have the 68881!)
		4)  It sucks 400ma more than the 68000.  One would hope this
		    is negligible.
		5)  There may be others.

	Also, I suspect that there are many companies making similar products
	and that the price may become reasonable in the comming year.  If
	anyone tries this (and I doubt it!), let the net know.


Larry Hutchinson, Tektronix, Inc. PO Box 500, MS 02-305, Beaverton, OR 97077
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kim@mips.UUCP (Kim DeVaughn) (12/21/85)

> Larry Hutchinson, Tektronix, Inc. writes in net.micro.mac:
>
> 	I just received a data sheet on a mezzanine board containing a 68020
> 	and a 68881 that plugs into a normal 68000's 64 pin dip socket.
> 	The board is 2.5" by 3.2" by 0.3".  The price was not given but I
> 	would guess it is steep (>$1000).  Those who are interested should
> 	contact:
> 		IO Inc.
> 		2430 N. Huachuca Dr.
> 		Tucson, Arizona 85745
> 		(602) 792-0969

I spoke briefly with Tom Sargent (IO Inc's President) ... the '020 that comes
on this board is a 12.5 MHz part, but it runs at whatever the original clock
rate was (and is restricted to a 16-bit data-path).  Price quoted was $1000
w/o the 68881;  $1272 with it (quantity of one).  Quantity discounts start at
the "quantity of two" level ($50 off per board).  Availability was said to be
2 weeks, ARO.

> 	Also, I suspect that there are many companies making similar products
> 	and that the price may become reasonable in the comming year.

Yes.  Computer System Associates (CSA) in San Diego has a similar product
available, which has been much discussed on net.micro.amiga.  The CSA board
is a bit more expensive, but has options for independent clocking and
on-board *32-bit* RAM (256K of it, anyway).

The IO Inc. board currently has an orientation problem if the installation is
in an Amiga ... the board needs to be "offset" from the 68000's socket in the
other direction.  IO Inc. will be either re-spinning the board to fit, or
will offer an "offset board" that would go in-between the 68000 socket and
their 68020 daughter-board.

The above is provided for information (and wishful thinking) only;  I have
no connection with either company.

/kim
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