[net.micro.mac] MacScheme Query

dineen@apollo.uucp (Terence H Dineen) (12/13/85)

Can someone tell me:

    Is MacScheme by Semantic Microsystems released?  If so:

    What hardware is required?
    What is the cost?
    How can it be ordered?

Thanks.
--

Terry Dineen   UUCP:  ...{yale,uw-beaver,decvax!wanginst}!apollo!dineen

willc@tekchips.UUCP (Will Clinger) (12/16/85)

(MacScheme is a high performance byte code interpreter for the dialect of
LISP used at MIT in the introductory computer science course.  The text for
that course is Abelson and Sussman, "Structure and Interpretation of Computer
Programs", McGraw-Hill and MIT Press.)

In article <2ab4b5da.264c@apollo.uucp> dineen@apollo.uucp (Terence H Dineen) writes:
>    Is MacScheme by Semantic Microsystems released?
Yes, and it is being used by several universities in their introductory
computer science courses.

>    What hardware is required?
An Apple Macintosh or Mac XL with 512K RAM.  The internal floppy is
sufficient, and MacScheme can use additional contiguous memory.

>    What is the cost?
$125.

>    How can it be ordered?
Send a letter and check to:

	Semantic Microsystems
	4470 SW Hall Street, Suite 340
	Beaverton OR  97005
	(503) 643-4539

(You may also hear of a California address.  The company began in Sausalito
aboard a rented sailboat but has moved to more practical quarters here in the
silicon forest.)

Note:  I was an author of MacScheme and have a financial interest in
Semantic Microsystems.  I now work for Tektronix, which has nothing to
do with any of this.

William Clinger
Tektronix Computer Research Laboratory

skorstad@uiucdcsb.CS.UIUC.EDU (12/17/85)

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Can someone tell me:

    Is MacScheme by Semantic Microsystems released?  If so:

    What hardware is required?
    What is the cost?
    How can it be ordered?

Thanks.
--

Terry Dineen   UUCP:  ...{yale,uw-beaver,decvax!wanginst}!apollo!dineen
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MacScheme IS currently available from Semantic Microsystems.  A 512K or
larger Mac is required.  Only one disk drive is necessary.  The cost is
$125.00 plus 6% sales tax for CA residents.  (University and industrial
site licenses are also available.)  To order MacScheme, just send $125.00
plus tax, if applicable to:

            Semantic Microsystems
            1001 Bridgeway Suite 542
            Sausalito, CA  94965

By the way, I spoke with the president of Semantic Microsystems.  She claims
that you can compile large programs by having MacScheme forget the source
code after it has compiled it.  She said she has compiled a 30 page Lisp
program using MacScheme.

In most benchmarks, MacScheme code executes faster than ExperLisp.

        -G. Skorstad
         University of Illinois at Urbana

kitchel@iuvax.UUCP (12/31/85)

	Although Indiana Univ. does not use Scheme as much as MIT, we
do have it as a required language in several courses.  I have used
MacScheme to write several assignments and been quite pleased with it.
	It runs fast on my Mac and seems to outperform the versions
of the local Scheme running on our VAX 11/780s and VAX 11/785 under
their normal student and faculty loading.  MacScheme is ideal for
anyone wishing to learn Scheme (especially with the Abelson and
Sussman book).  Scheme is a powerful and well-mannered descendant of
Lisp.  At $125 MacScheme is a bargain for what you get:

	1)  A full version of "standard" Scheme that is it follows the
"Revised Revised Report on Scheme" published jointly by Indiana and MIT;

	2)  It includes a good structure editor that allows interactive
editing of symbolic expressions;

	3)  There are good debugging facilities built in;

and 	4)  It makes use of the Mac's features, i.e. windows, the mouse
interface and so on.

	MacScheme also can be used for more than toy problems.  In fact
I have loaned my Mac running MacScheme to a faculty member here to do
large programs for his research.  I also think that there will soon be
MacScheme with full access to the Toolbox.
	Will Clinger (who used to be a professor here) and his friends
are quite sharp.  It looks like they did a great job of implementation.

NOTE:  I have no financial interest in Semantic Microsystems.