shulman@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Jeff Shulman) (01/03/86)
Delphi Digest Friday, 3 Jan 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 1 Today's Topics: Administrativia - HFS Programmers Package SoundCap/MacFractal Digitizer from MacNi Printer Interfaces Re: Shareware License and reply to same ... Re: Shareware License and reply to same ... Re: Shareware License and reply to same ... AppleTalk file server double sided disks RE: double sided disks (Re: Msg 4634) RE: double sided disks (Re: Msg 4634) non Apple 800k drives RE: non Apple 800k drives (Re: Msg 4638) Where's the SCSI port going to be? RE: Where's the SCSI port going to be? (Re: Msg 4670) RE: Where's the SCSI port going to be? (Re: Msg 4676) RE: Where's the SCSI port going to be? (Re: Msg 4678) APPLETALK CABLE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeff Shulman (Moderator) Subject: Administrativia - HFS Programmers Package Date: 3-JAN 11:33 Apple has made available to Delphi (and thus to me) most of the material in the December release of the HFS Programmers Package. What I have is the HFS PP documentation, MDS equates files, technotes and pre-alpha ResEdit 1.0D4. This all comes to about 477K of Binhex 4.0 files (200+ K alone with ResEdit.) Since the previous method I used to distribute technotes seemed to work OK (with a little extra work on my part.) I will try it for the HFS PP. So, if you are interested, send me your mail address and a list of sites you would be willing to forward them to. Jeff uucp: ...{harvard, seismo, ut-sally, sri-iu, ihnp4!packard}!topaz!shulman arpa: SHULMAN@RUTGERS Delphi: JEFFS ------------------------------ From: RICFORD (4109) Subject: SoundCap/MacFractal Digitizer from MacNi Date: 14-DEC 11:00 When All Else Fails I've just had the opportunity to use the SoundCap software and MacNifty digitizer hardware. It's astounding. You can take any sound source (at "aux out" levels from your stereo or tape recorder) and input it through the digitizer box to a 15 second digital recording on the Mac. The sampling rate is 22Khz, not too shabby! (that might restrict you to a 5 sec. sample, tho.) Once you've got the digital recording in the Mac, you can cut and paste and zoom in and out with incredible flexibility. The waveform is displayed as a time/amplitude graph (oscilliscope) and you do the editing graphically with the mouse. A tremendous range of sound processing functions is easily applied to any portion of the recording: flange, reverb (both variable in multiple parameters), backwards, volume ramp-up and ramp-down, and even MIXING two parts of the recording together, plus amplification and some others I've forgotten at the moment. And there's more: In real-time only, you can display the sound source in both time-domain (oscilliscope) and frequency-domain (spectrum diagram)!!! I'm just starting to use this thing, but folks, I can recommend sending $129 to the Kette Group today. It's undeniably worth the money, and the company policy is a money-back guarantee and lifetime warranty. Oh yeah, you can also create digitized sounds that are played at startup time (how would you like your Mac to say "Good Morning" in your spouse's voice - well, you could think of something a little more creative, but that's the idea.) The opportunity for freaking out your friends is great. We've got a review of the device in the upcoming January issue. I'll be posting more info. as I get to know it myself. Ric Ford "MacInTouch" newsletter P.S. The software is written by Fractal Software, who also did the PowerCache disk caching utility sold by MacNifty (Kette). The official name of the thing appears to be "Sound Cap" and MacNifty's phone number is 1-800-320-0184 ------------------------------ From: HALL (4181) Subject: Printer Interfaces Date: 17-DEC 19:56 Hardware & Peripherals Has anyone used or have any information about the various printer interfaces vailable for adapting Epson printers to the Mac? I'm considering the following interfaces: AYN Mac I/F Granny Smith Parallel Interface Hanzon Interface Brian Hall ------------------------------ From: PEABO (4288) Subject: Re: Shareware License and reply to same ... Date: 21-DEC 19:06 Mousing Around I am not aware of anyone trying to enforce a shareware agreement as a license or contract in the conventional sense! Probably it is not enforceable -- and note that shrink-packaging "licenses" are also a subject of much controversy for most of the same reasons. My opinion is that the word "must" in the phrase "use for N days or you must destroy your copy" is not to be interpreted as a legal restriction, but rather in the context "... you must destroy your copy, or else you are violating the spirit of my providing this software to you on a shareware basis". The language in Scott Watson's freeware offer is of this type ... he talks about a "contract of honor", and is quite explicit about always distributing the product with all documentation intact, including the text of the shareware offer. As copyright holder, he clearly can demand that the shareware offer be included in any copy made of the program, because he can distribute the program, documentation, and offer as a single copyrighted unit. (Technically, the program gets registered using a different government form that the documentation, but I think it would be a specious argument to say that this somehow separates the work into disjoint pieces for the purposes of protection). Watson goes on to ask that people distributing the package explain the method of distribution to those they give the package to. He doesn't start talking about lawyers until he cautions people that they cannot charge money for Red Ryder or use it as an inducement to sell another product. Again, he is the copyright holder, and can enforce such a restriction. In summary, I don't think the shareware agreement is a contract. I think it is an attempt to distribute software and compensate the producers of software according to an informal method, relying on a sense of community among all concerned to make the informal method work. People didn't used to write contracts for house-raising, either, and perhaps there is an aspect of the computer community which can support shareware now, or in the future. But don't mix up lawyers with shareware! ------------------------------ From: MACLAIRD (4295) Subject: Re: Shareware License and reply to same ... Date: 22-DEC 01:29 Mousing Around Peter, You apparently have given much thought and probably gotten expert advice on the issue -- and I agree whole-heartedly with your conclusions: If a piece of software is worth using it is worth paying for, because if the current program answers the current need then it is worth having another program to answer future needs. Also, if each of us had to create every program that we needed, we would not be able to finish them all. Anyway, what my question was, is: are we mixing up the lawyers with the shareware, or are we mixing ourselves up by thinking about lawyers and shareware in the same terms? After all, shareware is an attempt to 'market' software in a very direct and cost-effective manner. While lawyers sometimes can think in very direct terms, they tend to get confused when the stakes are low, or when computers are involved). I'm pretty confused myself -- well, at least I'll be able to "see all" over at the VCO party tomorrow! ------------------------------ From: PEABO (4323) Subject: Re: Shareware License and reply to same ... Date: 22-DEC 18:55 Mousing Around The most intriguing aspect of it is the idea that 'cottage industry' and a small town perspective on life would arise in the context of high-tech and internationally accessed computer networks. I think it is a good portent to the future if ideas like shareware can be made to work. Where that leaves lawyers and contracts and modern tech-related legislation is a good question. It reminds me of Ayn Rand, who espoused a philosophy of self-reliance and social organization that could work on a small scale, but which has immense problems in a national context. peter ------------------------------ From: ELL (4348) Subject: AppleTalk file server Date: 23-DEC 19:22 Hardware & Peripherals Convergent Technologies, which is merging with 3Com, has reportedly developed a Macintosh AppleTalk file server and is in negotiations with Apple, which may sell the product under its own name. ------------------------------ From: BILLCOX (4634) Subject: double sided disks Date: 2-JAN-00:24: Hardware & Peripherals Speaking of double-sided drives, there is a persistent rumor about that certain disks sold as single-sided will destroy the second head on a double- sided drive, due to the "second" side not being polished. Comments: (1) The standard manufacturing approach for any company selling both single and doulbe sided disks is to test enough of production to certify the double- sided ones that they have sold. The disks sold as single-sided, therefore, have either been tested and failed (:-( <-- frown), or not tested at all ( :-) ), thus saving us the $$ that it costs the manufacturer to test... (2) the felt-or-whatever pressure buttons might do some polishing, or would wear premturely if the second side were not polished. (3) If the rumor were true, there could be some really interesting lawsuits. In particular, the price of a new drive is under the limit for Small Claims suits most places. (4) I haven't detected any difference in polish/reflectivity on any of my disks (95% Sony, and 5% Memorex [yeah, it took 17 disks to get a good 10!]). Has anyone else heard these rumors? I am interested in the source(s), if any... bill ------------------------------ From: BMUG (4637) Subject: RE: double sided disks (Re: Msg 4634) Date: 2-JAN-01:26: Hardware & Peripherals I've been told that the SONY's seem to be OK in 800k drives with a failure rate of about 1 in 1500 about 40% higher than regular BMUG-SMC ------------------------------ From: RABBIT (4642) Subject: RE: double sided disks (Re: Msg 4634) Date: 2-JAN-02:36: Hardware & Peripherals Bill, The APPLE disks do not have the second side polished. They will not work on an Amiga with DS drives... Scott ------------------------------ From: BMUG (4638) Subject: non Apple 800k drives Date: 2-JAN-01:31: Bugs & Features All you who have non Apple 800k drives know by now that they will handle or boot a HFS disk.. It has something to do with speed controls in the SONY speed control drivers in the HD 20 system file. I have tried this patch on a Haba 800k drive and it works fine. I assume it will work with all other drives except the Apple 800 drive Here it is. The patch for "Hard Disk 20" is as follows: Find: 4A31 1005 6B04 4A42 Change: 4A31 1005 4E71 4A42 Find: 4A31 1005 6A02 4E75 Change: 4A31 1005 6002 4E75 .any questions ? BMUG-SMC ------------------------------ From: BILLS (4661) Subject: RE: non Apple 800k drives (Re: Msg 4638) Date: 2-JAN-13:00: Bugs & Features No questions, but if your patch is the same as the one floating on the other service, note that once this patch is made, standard 800K apple drives will not work. It was an either or situation. Don't know if this is the case with your patch, but I thought I'd mention it. Bill S ------------------------------ From: MARSHG (4670) Subject: Where's the SCSI port going to be? Date: 2-JAN-19:08: Hardware & Peripherals Can someone shed some light on where the new SCSI port is going to be. Looking at the back of my mac, there isn't enough room for another port. Will one of the existing ports be "reused"? I have heard from several rumor mills that the external drive port will be reused. What does that do to us HD20 users?? Marsh Gosnell ------------------------------ From: PEABO (4676) Subject: RE: Where's the SCSI port going to be? (Re: Msg 4670) Date: 2-JAN-20:08: Hardware & Peripherals My understanding is that the existing serial ports will be converted to round subminiature connectors and everything will move over to fit. I am worried that Radio Shack will not stock the round connectors. :-( peter ------------------------------ From: ELL (4678) Subject: RE: Where's the SCSI port going to be? (Re: Msg 4676) Date: 2-JAN-20:59: Hardware & Peripherals Peter, I thought that they were going to use DIN connectors(yes round) in which case you can find at Radio Shack. Though I don't think that they offer them already attached to cables, like the 'joystick extension cord'. ell ------------------------------ From: PEABO (4683) Subject: RE: Where's the SCSI port going to be? (Re: Msg 4678) Date: 2-JAN-22:25: Hardware & Peripherals I think these connectors are smaller than the usual DIN connectors, and have either 8 or 9 pins. I haven't had much luck in the past with RS and DIN connectors with more than 5 pins! peter ------------------------------ From: RABBIT (4688) Subject: APPLETALK CABLE Date: 2-JAN-22:56: Programming I would like to know if the cable that comes with the MDS assembler can be used as a standard Appletalk cable. It has send and receive cross for inter- system communication, and I don't know if AppleTalk is set up that way. If not, can I use any 9 pin cable which has all 9 pins connected? Scott ------------------------------ End of Delphi Digest ********************
gwe@cbdkc1.UUCP ( George Erhart x4021 CB 3D288 WDS ) (01/06/86)
In article <4309@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> shulman@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Jeff Shulman) writes: >From: RICFORD (4109) >Subject: SoundCap/MacFractal Digitizer from MacNi >Date: 14-DEC 11:00 When All Else Fails > >I've just had the opportunity to use the SoundCap software and MacNifty >digitizer hardware. It's astounding. You can take any sound source (at "aux >out" levels from your stereo or tape recorder) and input it through the >digitizer box to a 15 second digital recording on the Mac. The sampling rate is >22Khz, not too shabby! (that might restrict you to a 5 sec. sample, tho.) > >Once you've got the digital recording in the Mac, you can cut and >paste and zoom in and out with incredible flexibility. The waveform >is displayed as a time/amplitude graph (oscilliscope) and you do the >editing graphically with the mouse. A tremendous range of sound >processing functions is easily applied to any portion of the >recording: flange, reverb (both variable in multiple parameters), >backwards, volume ramp-up and ramp-down, and even MIXING two parts of >the recording together, plus amplification and some others I've >forgotten at the moment. > >And there's more: > >In real-time only, you can display the sound source in both time-domain >(oscilliscope) and frequency-domain (spectrum diagram)!!! > >I'm just starting to use this thing, but folks, I can recommend sending $129 to >the Kette Group today. It's undeniably worth the money, and the company policy >is a money-back guarantee and lifetime warranty. > >Oh yeah, you can also create digitized sounds that are played at >startup time (how would you like your Mac to say "Good Morning" in >your spouse's voice - well, you could think of something a little more >creative, but that's the idea.) The opportunity for freaking out your >friends is great. > >We've got a review of the device in the upcoming January issue. I'll >be posting more info. as I get to know it myself. > >Ric Ford "MacInTouch" newsletter > >P.S. The software is written by Fractal Software, who also did the PowerCache >disk caching utility sold by MacNifty (Kette). The official name of the thing >appears to be "Sound Cap" and MacNifty's phone number is 1-800-320-0184 There is also a competing product to this: MacRecorder. It is being sold in a kit form for $50 from the Berkeley Macintosh Users Group. (Address available on request!) It has only a 10khz sampling frequency, but it still sounds good. It connects to a serial port and has a program to record, play, edit and save sounds. It saves sounds in a freeform synth record so you can use them in your own programs. DISCLAIMER: I have ordered, but not received my kit yet. I have the software and a sample sound file. I am a member of BMUG, (at only $17/half year, it's great) and other than that have not association with this product. -- George Erhart at AT&T Bell Laboratories Columbus, Ohio 614-860-4021 {ihnp4,cbosgd}!cbdkc1!gwe