[net.micro.mac] Please Help -- Hyper 20 / System problem

guest@ccivax.UUCP (What's in a name ?) (01/25/86)

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Dear Net,

This one is pretty good.  It concerns the use of MacProject and MacDraw 
from the 20 mb Hyperdrive.  Both these programs have a feature that sets
the size of the chart or drawing.  It is a dialog box with a rectangle 
separated into squares. One square is the default size (8.5 x 11). By 
clicking additional squares you can make the chart or drawing larger 
than a page (they must then be taped together).

The problem is that when these packages (not protected) are executed from
the hard disk, the size rectangle is separated into very thin vertical 
lines instead of the normal squares.  This makes it real tough to set an
appropriate size.  My drawers (sorry) are set up with a system file in 
startup and these two programs in another drawer.  I think I may be missing
some sort of secret resource on my hyper that is on both the MacDraw and
MacProject disks.

Thanx 3.1415926 for any assistance.


Sam Mantel -- Roch, NY

 

leeke@cascade.ARPA (01/29/86)

>Dear Net,
>
>This one is pretty good.  It concerns the use of MacProject and MacDraw 
>from the 20 mb Hyperdrive.  Both these programs have a feature that sets
>the size of the chart or drawing.  It is a dialog box with a rectangle 
>separated into squares. One square is the default size (8.5 x 11). By 
>clicking additional squares you can make the chart or drawing larger 
>than a page (they must then be taped together).
>
>The problem is that when these packages (not protected) are executed from
>the hard disk, the size rectangle is separated into very thin vertical 
>lines instead of the normal squares.  This makes it real tough to set an
>appropriate size.  My drawers (sorry) are set up with a system file in 
>startup and these two programs in another drawer.  I think I may be missing
>some sort of secret resource on my hyper that is on both the MacDraw and
>MacProject disks.
>
>Thanx 3.1415926 for any assistance.
>
>Sam Mantel -- Roch, NY

Sam,

The problem (I believe) is that both Project and Draw have no knowledge
of how to deal with pages when a print driver is not on the same volume
as they are on.  It is not good enough to simply have a system with an
imagewriter or laserwriter on it and Project/Draw on another mounted
volume.  You MUST have a print driver on the same disk since Project/Draw
change the page size you see depending on the print drive and whatever
you have done during page setup.

For laserWriters Draw defaults to a 7.5 x 10 in page, and for imagewriters
the defaults is 8 x 10 in.  Note that if you go to 50% reduction in
imagewriter during page setup or some variable percentage in laserwriter
the page size shown on Draw/Project will change.  Similary, if you
change from landscape to protrait or vice-versa you will see your layout
change, that is you first clue of the communication going on.

I wish that Draw/Project were smart enough to search the system (i.e.
all mounted volumes) but it seems only the application's volume gets
searched.

I hope this helps; it seemed to cure my problems.

Steve Leeke

elwell@osu-eddie.UUCP (Clayton M. Elwell) (01/31/86)

MacDraw, at least, really, really wants to get things right and asks the
print manager how big the paper is.  If you don't have any printer
resource files loaded up (ImageWriter or LaserWriter), it will get
very confused.  I suspect MacProject is the same way.

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