waddingt@umn-cs.UUCP (Jake Waddington ) (02/01/86)
Just to add my bit to this. The best alternative to Macterminal for PROFESSIONAL use, (other than just talking to BBS's). is VersaTerm. It is a good complete program with very good support. Note the current version is 2.00 not 7.0, that is to say Mr. Abelbeck can get it right the first time. We use VersaTerm in Our lab to talk to our 2.9 Unix system as a graphic terminal and are very pleased. The price of VersaTerm is $100 as to $40 fo Red Ryder which is a good deal for a quality package. disclaimer: I'm just a satisfied costumer. Paul Fink inh4!umn-cs!waddingt
lamy@utai.UUCP (Jean-Francois Lamy) (02/03/86)
In article <872@umn-cs.UUCP> waddingt@umn-cs.UUCP (Paul Fink) writes: > > Just to add my bit to this. The best alternative to Macterminal for >PROFESSIONAL use, (other than just talking to BBS's). is VersaTerm. Talk about asking for trouble... Remember...The Surgeon General has determined that capital letters may be harmful to your health. VersaTerm is indeed a very good program. I use it all the time for communication with Unix, I really like the Emacs mouse feature and it supports XMODEM, Kermit, MacBinary and MacTerminal XMODEM. But I frequently log on a machine at the department from which I am on leave, which involves: reaching the local PAD by phone, changing it's set-up, giving a network address, logging on one machine at the other end and finally doing a remote login to the target machine. That machine happens to run VMS, which means that you can't do much editing unless you have a keypad. Red Ryder handles this non-trivial login sequence beautifully and allows me to emulate the keypad in a reasonable fashion. If only it had MacTerminal XMODEM and emulated a VT100 correctly... Professionally yours, -- Jean-Francois Lamy Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto, Departement d'informatique et de recherche operationnelle, U. de Montreal. CSNet: lamy@toronto.csnet UUCP: {utzoo,ihnp4,decwrl,uw-beaver}!utcsri!utai!lamy CDN: lamy@iro.udem.cdn (lamy%iro.udem.cdn@ubc.csnet)
tim@ism780c.UUCP (Tim Smith) (02/03/86)
In article <872@umn-cs.UUCP> waddingt@umn-cs.UUCP (Jake Waddington ) writes: > >It is a good complete program with very good support. Note the current >version is 2.00 not 7.0, that is to say Mr. Abelbeck can get it right >the first time. We use VersaTerm in Our lab to talk to our 2.9 Unix system If he got it right the first time, why isn't it 1.00?????? -- Tim Smith sdcrdcf!ism780c!tim || ima!ism780!tim || ihnp4!cithep!tim
olson@harvard.UUCP (02/04/86)
In article <872@umn-cs.UUCP> waddingt@umn-cs.UUCP (Jake Waddington ) writes: >It is a good complete program with very good support. Note the current >version is 2.00 not 7.0, that is to say Mr. Abelbeck can get it right >the first time. We use VersaTerm in Our lab to talk to our 2.9 Unix system Then, In article <413@ism780c.UUCP> tim@ism780c.UUCP (Tim Smith) writes: >If he got it right the first time, why isn't it 1.00?????? Now, I write: Here here! Not only that, but considering that VersaTerm's version number has three significant digits, it is possible that at version 2.00 it has gone through 200 revisions! Red Ryder, on the other hand, has two sig. digits in its version number, and presumably may have gone through 70 revisions. No, I am NOT being serious here, and I hope Jake wasn't either. It makes no sense to judge a program based on its version number. I should point out that I don't use either of these programs (I use MacTerminal), so I really don't know which is better designed, supported, or any of those other things that really DO make a difference. Another thing worth pointing out is that Red Ryder has had many TOTAL rewrites (according to some recent InfoWorld article), and we all (well, most would agree, anyway) know that this leads to better programs BUT requires mucho time. Most commercial products don't get developed that way (this is not to say, however that VersaTerm did not-- I don't know). I hope I've included enough self-humbling statements in this to avoid being flamed at. I just didn't think it was fair to compare programs by version number. Please, no extended exchanges on this. -Eric.
briand@tekig4.UUCP (Brian Diehm) (02/08/86)
>>version is 2.00 not 7.0, that is to say Mr. Abelbeck can get it right >>the first time. We use VersaTerm in Our lab to talk to our 2.9 Unix system > >If he got it right the first time, why isn't it 1.00?????? Actually, we've been using the first COMMERCIAL release of Versaterm, 1.52, for over a year, and have had NO problems. It is SO reliable that if there is indeed a version 2.00, I presume it is feature enhancement rather than bug fixes. -Brian Diehm Tektronix, Inc.