[net.misc] DEC Sales people

andy (11/10/82)

Hi,

	To my query about buying a VAX without also buying VMS. The majority of
the responses stated that you had to buy VMS with your VAX. This is apparently
not true a few sites have managed to by Vaxen (from DEC) without VMS and they
also managed to get DEC field service without having a VMS license. It seems 
that inorder to buy a VAX without VMS one has to be persistant. If the sales-
man won't sell it to you you should talk to his boss and if that doesn't work
you should talk to the boss' boss... etc.

						Andy

ps. We're buying VMS, it turns out that we are getting a tremendous discount
from DEC because we are an OEM and we are buying all DEC equipment. It would
be silly to not take advantage of the benefits of having VMS on site.

rjk (11/12/82)

An effective deterrent for the sales unit who persists in forcing
VMS on you with your VAX:

	"Ok, thanx - I'll buy the 3B20S"

Of course, that only works within AT&T (for now)...