akk2@ur-tut.UUCP (03/12/86)
(line eater, line eater........) I remember reading somewhere about a Desk Accessory for the Mac that locks the Finder of the startup disk, so that even if you run an application program from an external disk drive the startup finder is not swapped. Is this possible ? Did anyone else read about it ? As far as I can remember the DA was called FLOCK ? It's driving me crazy, since I haven't been able to remember where I read about it!!! -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ UUCP : {allegra|seismo|decvax}!rochester!ur-tut!akk2 BITNET : HNUC@UORVM USMAIL : Atul Kacker, Dept.Chem Engg., Univ. Rochester, Rochester, NY 14627 VOICE : (716)-275-5874 ========================================================================= "I swear - by my life and my love of it - that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine "-- Ayn Rand
jimb@amdcad.UUCP (Jim Budler) (03/15/86)
In article <45@ur-tut.UUCP> akk2@ur-tut.UUCP writes: >(line eater, line eater........) > >I remember reading somewhere about a Desk Accessory for the >Mac that locks the Finder of the startup disk, so that even >if you run an application program from an external disk drive >the startup finder is not swapped. Is this possible ? >Did anyone else read about it ? As far as I can remember >the DA was called FLOCK ? > >It's driving me crazy, since I haven't been able to remember >where I read about it!!! I don't know about a DA, but Keeper is an application which does this, or alternately do the following: Use Fedit, open finder. Hex search for 6738594F Hex modify to 6038594F ^ write sector NOTE: All of this is for Finder 4.1 ONLY, neither Keeper, nor the patch above work with other (older or newer) versions of the Finder!!!! As an aside, I am using System 3.0 and Finder 5.1. With this combination the system automatically stays put on a RamDisk. I would GUESS it also will do so on a hard disk. Finder 5.1 works with the older system but this feature doesn't. -- Jim Budler Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (408) 749-5806 Usenet: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amdcad!jimb Compuserve: 72415,1200
jimb@amdcad.UUCP (Jim Budler) (03/19/86)
In article <708@puff.UUCP> hammen@puff.UUCP (Zaphod Beeblebrox) writes: >In article <10688@amdcad.UUCP>, jimb@amdcad.UUCP (Jim Budler) types: >> In article <45@ur-tut.UUCP> akk2@ur-tut.UUCP writes: >> > >.....procedure to modify finder to make the startup disk remain the default >> >> NOTE: All of this is for Finder 4.1 ONLY, neither Keeper, nor the patch above >> work with other (older or newer) versions of the Finder!!!! >....... >> >> Jim Budler >> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. >> (408) 749-5806 >> Usenet: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amdcad!jimb >> Compuserve: 72415,1200 > >Keeper works with Finder 5.1, as I use it on my Lisa and Profile every day. >I don't know how anyone with a large desktop file (mine is 132K) could ever do >without it. Does anyone know who wrote it? It doesn't work with my Mac512, system 3 finder 5.1. It runs and the Mac Bombs while closing the next application. Perhaps we have different versions, or we are talking about different programs entirely. The one I am talking about keeps the boot drive in place on a given disk, whether you run an application off another disk containing a system file or not. Sounds like 'your' keeper is HFS oriented. -- Jim Budler Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (408) 749-5806 Usenet: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amdcad!jimb Compuserve: 72415,1200
hammen@puff.UUCP (Zaphod Beeblebrox) (03/19/86)
In article <10804@amdcad.UUCP>, jimb@amdcad.UUCP (Jim Budler) types: > In article <708@puff.UUCP> hammen@puff.UUCP (Zaphod Beeblebrox) writes: > >In article <10688@amdcad.UUCP>, jimb@amdcad.UUCP (Jim Budler) types: > >> In article <45@ur-tut.UUCP> akk2@ur-tut.UUCP writes: > >> > > >.....procedure to modify finder to make the startup disk remain the default > >> > >> NOTE: All of this is for Finder 4.1 ONLY, neither Keeper, nor the patch above > >> work with other (older or newer) versions of the Finder!!!! > >....... > >> > >> Jim Budler > > > >Keeper works with Finder 5.1, as I use it on my Lisa and Profile every day. > >I don't know how anyone with a large desktop file (mine is 132K) could ever do > >without it. Does anyone know who wrote it? > > It doesn't work with my Mac512, system 3 finder 5.1. It runs and the Mac Bombs > while closing the next application. Perhaps we have different versions, or > we are talking about different programs entirely. > > The one I am talking about keeps the boot drive in place on a given > disk, whether you run an application off another disk containing a system > file or not. Sounds like 'your' keeper is HFS oriented. > -- > Jim Budler > Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. > (408) 749-5806 > Usenet: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amdcad!jimb > Compuserve: 72415,1200 Here's what my Keeper does. On a 512K or larger machine, it will keep the desktop file and the Finder in RAM, the upshot being that no matter how large a desktop file you have or how many files you have, quitting to the Finder is nearly instantaneous. This program works particularly well with hard disks (i.e. large desktop files). I downloaded it from the MacInternationalBBS and would LOVE to know who wrote it. I have discovered a couple of problems with it: one is with WayStation 2.1 (a minifinder substitute) and one deals with using the font/da mover and adding/removing fonts and da's. (you don't see a reduction of the size of the system file, and you can crash by trying to access a DA that is not in the system anymore). I have been using it for two weeks now, on both a Lisa 2 with a 10 meg profile and Finder 5.1/System 3.0 and a Mac Plus with Hard Disk 20 and same System/Finder. I have not tried it extensively on a 512K Mac, and wouldn't even think of trying it on a 128K Mac. I have also not tried it with other Finders and Systems. I do not believe it is dependant on HFS, as I'm running MFS on the Lisa and HFS on the Mac Plus. ============================= |---------------------------- | Robert J. Hammen |- ================= ------- | Manta Software Corp. |- == == ------- | U. of Wisc. CS Dept. |- == == ------- | U. of Wisc. Plasma Physics Dept. |- == == ------- | |- == == ------- | USENET: {ihnp4,allegra,seismo}!uwvax | == == | / \ | ================= ----== | !gumby!hammen !puff!hammen | + | ============================= hammen@{PUFF.WISC.EDU,GUMBY.WISC.EDU} | == | ============================= USNAIL: 45 N. Orchard St. Call the Manta BBS! 24 hrs. Madison WI 53715 (715)832-7420 300/1200/2400 AT&T: (608)251-2846
borton@sdcc3.UUCP (Chris Borton) (03/21/86)
I have run Keeper on a 512K Mac with an HD20 under HFS and had no problems. I even ran Switcher afterward to find out how much memory it took. Quitting from the Switcher was fine... I downloaded Keeper from net.sources.mac. -Chris ------- Chris Borton, UC San Diego Undergraduate CS Micro Consultant, UCSD borton@ucsd.ARPA or ...!{ucbvax,decvax,noscvax,ihnp4,bang}!sdcsvax!borton