[net.micro.mac] help needed on installer

riddle@emory.UUCP (Larry Riddle) (05/07/86)

I am trying to install system 3.1.1 using the installer that came on
the System Installation disk from the "December 85" supplement.  When
I start the installer I get the option of installing
"Macintosh Plus (v 1.1b1)".
When I click this and try to install it on a disk, I get the message

   File "System" on System Installation is not the right
   date for "Macintosh Plus (v 1.1b1)

This is version 2.1 of the installer.  If I try using version 2.0
to install system 3.1.1, I get the same error message.  Yet I have
used version 2.0 of the installer to install system 3.0.

What's going on?  Which is the "bad" system, version 3.0 or 3.1, that
the warnings have been posted about?  Has anyone else had trouble using
the installer from the December 85 supplement?

Any help would be appreciated.

-- 
Larry Riddle
Emory University
Dept of Math and CS
Atlanta, Ga 30322

{akgua,sb1,gatech,decvax}!emory!riddle   USENET
riddle@emory                      CSNET
riddle.emory@csnet-relay          ARPANET

hammen@gumby.UUCP (Robert J. Hammen) (05/10/86)

In article <1614@emory.UUCP>, riddle@emory.UUCP (Larry Riddle) types:
> I am trying to install system 3.1.1 using the installer that came on
> the System Installation disk from the "December 85" supplement.  When
> I start the installer I get the option of installing
> "Macintosh Plus (v 1.1b1)".
> When I click this and try to install it on a disk, I get the message
> 
>    File "System" on System Installation is not the right
>    date for "Macintosh Plus (v 1.1b1)
> 
> This is version 2.1 of the installer.  If I try using version 2.0
> to install system 3.1.1, I get the same error message.  Yet I have
> used version 2.0 of the installer to install system 3.0.
> 
> What's going on?  Which is the "bad" system, version 3.0 or 3.1, that
> the warnings have been posted about?  Has anyone else had trouble using
> the installer from the December 85 supplement?
> 
As most of you are probably (now) aware, the Installer (well, at least any
version that I've seen--I haven't tried the new one I got with 5.3/3.2) is
incompatible with System file 3.1.1.  Rumor has it that this is the reason
why Apple is insisting that Finder 5.1/System 3.0 are the 'currently supported'
versions.  System file 3.0 was supposed to have problems trashing itself, and
System 3.1 didn't really work at all.  I feel safer using Apple's 'unsupported'
system than using the other two that have known bugs (of course, 3.1.1 could
have some problems that they're not telling us, but I haven't seen any in the
6 weeks or so I've been using it).  And, never bother with the installer,
just remove the fonts/da's in your current system that you want, and then
replace the Finder/System on your disk--I've heard of MANY bad stories
about the Installer.

Robert J. Hammen     {seismo,allegra,ihnp4,harvard,topaz}!uwvax!gumby!hammen
UW-Madison CS Dept.   hammen@gumby.wisc.edu
UW-Madison Plasma Physics Dept.     plasma%wiscpsl.bitnet {@wiscvm.wisc.edu}
---
Experience varies greatly with equipment ruined.