daniel@sickkids.UUCP (07/10/86)
This has probably been asked (and answered!) many times, sorry...
Can I download something from the info-mac archive if I have direct
access to Usenet only? I can send messages to Arpanet, but I am not
sure I can receive them.
If there is no way, could somebody please mail me a copy of RAMSTART-HFS.HQX.
Thanks.
Daniel Guerin, The Hospital for Sick Children, Toronto
Voice: +1 416 598 5725
USENET: {decvax,utzoo}!sickkids!daniel
BITNET: daniel@sickkids.utoronto
ARPANET: daniel%sickkids.utoronto.bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu
or: daniel%sickkids.utoronto.bitnet@wiscvm.arpa
(I am not sure which ARPANET address will work, please try both)stuart@ihlpf.UUCP (07/14/86)
> This has probably been asked (and answered!) many times, sorry... > Can I download something from the info-mac archive if I have direct > access to Usenet only? I can send messages to Arpanet, but I am not Yeah, How does one get these files? Is this what the mysterious 'ftp' program is about, and if so, HOW IS IT DONE?!! -- Stuart Ericson USENET: ..!ihnp4!ihlpf!stuart voice: (312) 979-4288 "HONEST!! I was just sitting here when suddenly I noticed my computer was posting to this newsgroup. I guess it was desparate for company."
marchesi@cernvax.UUCP (07/18/86)
In article <610@ihlpf.UUCP> stuart@ihlpf.UUCP writes: >> This has probably been asked (and answered!) many times, sorry... >> Can I download something from the info-mac archive if I have direct >> access to Usenet only? I can send messages to Arpanet, but I am not > >Yeah, How does one get these files? Is this what the mysterious >'ftp' program is about, and if so, HOW IS IT DONE?!! To retrieve files from <INFO-MAC> you have to be logged on an ARPAnet host, from which you can issue an ftp. ( Ftp <File Transfer Program> is the user interface to the ARPANET standard file transfer protocol. The program allows a user to transfer files to and from a remote network site.) An alternative is to access the MACSERVE server at BITNIC via VM - just type "tell macserve at bitnic dir" and you will get a directory of the available files. Alas, MACSERVE is not updated too frequently... Perhaps i may add a question here: a friend of mine has tried to ftp from MITLNS - the transfer failed with an 'unexpected end of data' after about 3 minutes - any hints? ciao paolo
werner@ut-ngp.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) (07/19/86)
In article <610@ihlpf.UUCP> stuart@ihlpf.UUCP writes: >> This has probably been asked (and answered!) many times, sorry... >> Can I download something from the info-mac archive if I have direct >> access to Usenet only? I can send messages to Arpanet, but I am not In general, many ARPA-bboard moderators will send archived files on request to sites that cannot FTP. I doubt that the current group (not one) of net-friends that keep INFO-MAC humming are doing so at the moment, as they may not have the extra time and energy. But anyone on ARPA could stand up and volunteer for that duty, so maybe we should have a request for a volunteer (name your "bribes"), best residing at a site that has some/most/all of the archives available locally. However, let me recommend a procedure that is a lot more efficient and effective, regarding everyone's time and resources: Join a Users Group, locally or remote and get their PD-disks. Boston, NY, Washington, Berkeley, etc. (Austin??) procide that service (worldwide, I believe), and produce excellent disk-collections and newsletters. Also, make an effort to locate a local BBS and you might be surprised what you may find. If there is none locally, you can try long-distance, of course, but why not rather find a few local folks with similar interests and needs and start a BBS? BTW, here in Austin, we have several BBSes which rival this net in message traffic (some say in quality, also). Try the following during *CHEAP* phone rate hours (don't ask me when that is!!): MegaPhone BBS: (512)331-1662 and Bull Creek BBS: (512)343-1612 tell the SYSOP I invited you for a look-see. can you say 50 MegaBytes online ??!!
gjb@unirot.UUCP (07/21/86)
In article <3675@ut-ngp.UUCP> werner@ut-ngp.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: > >In article <610@ihlpf.UUCP> stuart@ihlpf.UUCP writes: >>> This has probably been asked (and answered!) many times, sorry... >>> Can I download something from the info-mac archive if I have direct >>> access to Usenet only? I can send messages to Arpanet, but I am not > >In general, many ARPA-bboard moderators will send archived files on request >to sites that cannot FTP. I doubt that the current group (not one) of >net-friends that keep INFO-MAC humming are doing so at the moment, as they >may not have the extra time and energy. But anyone on ARPA could stand up >and volunteer for that duty, so maybe we should have a request for a volunteer >(name your "bribes"), best residing at a site that has some/most/all of the >archives available locally. I remember reading a while ago about a machine that had a server which sent sources back to people who sent a request message to it. Is this true? Where is it? But if it's not true, it sounds like a good idea. One machine (or maybe several machines, for different regions of the net) could respond to messages by sending the appropriate sources back to the sender. This machine would have to be one which has all sources that go to ARPAnet, Usenet, CompuServe, and Delphi, if possible. It would be a UUCP file server. I'm sure somebody has tried or suggested this before. Why not another try? For one, it would take care of "could you please repost..." problems, and perhaps allow users of machines without enough disk space to hold sources for more than a few days, if at all, like the one I'm using. Anyone else have any ideas? -Greg -- Greg Brail (Greg @ The Soup Kitchen) UUCP : ..{ihnp4,seismo,harvard,sri-iu,lll-crg,ut-sally,allegra}!caip!unirot!gjb ARPA : unirot!gjb@caip.rutgers.edu USNAIL : Don't bother.
werner@ut-ngp.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) (07/21/86)
> I remember reading a while ago about a machine that had a server > which sent sources back to people who sent a request message to it. > Is this true? Where is it? BITNET has such a server, but I doubt that they are willing to supply other nets with information. Well, it may depend on the volume of traffic. > But if it's not true, it sounds like a good idea. One machine (or > maybe several machines, for different regions of the net) could > respond to messages by sending the appropriate sources back to the > sender. This machine would have to be one which has all sources that go > to ARPAnet, Usenet, CompuServe, and Delphi, if possible. It would be > a UUCP file server. This does not seem feasable on USENET, as I can't see where the financing is supposed to be coming from. Besides, not only would you have an unpredictable load on the server-machine, you'd also impact all the neighboring machines with the increased mail-load. And given that you are talking (large) source, files, I doubt this would be considered acceptable. > Anyone else have any ideas? yes, join a Mac-users group, local or national. Check some bulletin board systems in your area which may have as much or more material online than here on the net. There is also a commercial outfit which sells PD-disks by mail at a reasonable price. And forget the idea that on USENET it is feasable to have net-wide file-servers. Maybe within a company, city, or even region a limited file-serving capability is feasable. It would be interesting to know if the software exists already .... is anyone aware of something like it?
ix21@sdcc6.ucsd.EDU (David Whiteman) (07/23/86)
One alternative to Usenet would be the user group I recently joined. They have a PD library of over 120 discs. There address is: San Diego/La Jolla Macintosh Users Group PO Box 12561 La Jolla CA 92037-0655 By the way they are a non-profit organization. -- David Whiteman, University of California, San Diego The America Cup, don't leave Perth without it.
bytebug@felix.UUCP (Roger L. Long) (07/28/86)
In article <19@sickkids.UUCP> daniel@sickkids.UUCP writes: >This has probably been asked (and answered!) many times, sorry... >Can I download something from the info-mac archive if I have direct >access to Usenet only? I can send messages to Arpanet, but I am not >sure I can receive them. I've asked the info-mac moderator to please forward all program postings so that I could put them in mod.mac.{sources,binaries}, but thus far haven't gotten it set up yet. It appears that one problem is his mailer can only mail things smaller than a given size, which most program postings exceed. I'm still looking into this.