[net.misc] Androids?

amh (12/07/82)

With all the discussion about androids and some netnusers claiming
not to be androids, I must ask not about whether other netnusers
around you are androids, but are *YOU* an android.  Before answering
consider the philosophical and theological questions involved.
i.e.  Determinism and Free will, The validity of
Perceptions/recollections etc.
 

Aldon Hynes
BTL Pisc.
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knutsen@sri-unix (12/08/82)

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sri-unix!knutsen    Dec  7 22:17:00 1982

	Phil Dick wrote an interesting SF book called "Do Androids
Dream of Electric Sheep?" about the question "who is an android?".
I think the movie "Bladerunner" was based on this, but I doubt
it retained Dick's bizzareness. At the end of the book I wasn't
sure I wasn't one myself, not to mention you out there.

	Andrew Knutsen

debray (12/21/82)

If we are to debate philosophical questions of such stature, let me point out
that
	(a) One can never be sure that other users, or, for that matter, the
net itself, "really" exists! (The old Cartesian argument of "Cogito, ergo Sum").	(b) Assuming, for reasons of convenience (and before the flames
vapourize me), that Objective Reality is not a myth, it is probably not
possible for one to know everything about oneself - even if the amount of
knowledge is finite - since one will not know that one knows everything about
oneself. This is analogous to the Halting Problem. In particular, an Android
cannot know (unless told) that it is an Android.

	In any case, how do we DEFINE the distinction between Humans, Cyborgs,
Androids ? The recent implantation of an artificial heart into Dr. Clark
raises some fundamental questions about humanness - such as, how much of myself
can be replaced by machines and still leave me "human" ? Heart ? Kidneys ?
Lungs ? Limbs ? Blood vessels ?


Saumya K. Debray
SUNY @ Stony Brook