russ (01/10/83)
Is there a soul? If so does it have properties? If so what are they? The soul is a joint creation of an individual's mind and the spirit of God. It is the embodiment of all one's good, positive , "altruistic" moral decisions. It is the vehicle for life after material death. The soul is often mistaken for the spirit of God which dwells within all of us. This part of God within us is responsible for our insight, moral courage, and "gut feeling". Russ Gustafson
ark (01/11/83)
Is there a soul? If so does it have properties? If so what are they? The soul is a joint creation of an individual's mind and the spirit of God. It is the embodiment of all one's good, positive , "altruistic" moral decisions. It is the vehicle for life after material death. The soul is often mistaken for the spirit of God which dwells within all of us. This part of God within us is responsible for our insight, moral courage, and "gut feeling". Russ Gustafson Please state your supporting evidence for these assertions.
perelgut (01/12/83)
I really should know better so please flame to /dev/null but I cannot help myself. If the part of God within us is responsible for "gut-feeling" then we are in trouble. Surely Hinckley (remember him) had a gut feeling to demonstrate his love for Jodi. Surely Arafat has a gut feeling that it is OK to kill anyone he wants to further his political aims. Surely,....... Enough of that. Here's a softer topic we may want to discuss. I may even get enough energy together to actually produce a definitive first article soon. Studies are showing a growing trend from product oriented society to an information oriented society. As a first thought, this seems to obliterate capitalism and communism since you can steal an idea and not actually remove a physical object. (Steal a product [ a can of tuna?] and you have one more and they have one less). Well, enough rambling. Sorry about the soul and "part of God" comments but this is a mini flame, mini comment. --- One of the majority who don't actually speak on the network too often but aren't afraid to sign their names when they actually do contribute an article (and who aren't afraid to use up a few extra lines to sign their names. --- --- Stephen Perelgut --- --- decvax!utzoo!utcsrgv!perelgut ---
root (01/13/83)
My supporting "evidence" for my soul assertions is faith, the revealed word of God and human fallibility. Russ Gustafson
rkj (01/14/83)
Regarding Alan Silversteins quote from Meher Baba: While the Hindu (Eastern) cosmological view of the human soul as being continuous with all life/consciousness is intriguing, I could never swallow the "all we see is Illusion" part. While many believe that what we see as the "real universe" is not absolute but merely one of many alternate realities, and is a consensus that we humans have agreed to and pass on to our children, this particular manifestation of reality is as "real" as the rest of the universe/God. Rick Janka ihtnt!rkj
russ (01/18/83)
Gut feeling is the human reaction (good or bad) to the divine spark
russ (01/18/83)
tought is reality
mmt (01/20/83)
"My supporting "evidence" for my soul assertions is faith,
the revealed word of God and human fallibility.
Russ Gustafson"
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But doesn't it take a lot of faith, given human fallibility, to
believe that the word was revealed by God? If you have that much
faith, then how do you tell which word of which God was correctly
revealed? It seems to be a solipsistic kind of evidence.
Martin Taylorarlan (01/26/83)
The information society will probably further capitalism, since capitalism is the only means devised to date whereby wealth is created; the term "to make money" doesn't exist in the collectivist societies. It is only in statist/static economic systems where taking something from someone else is condoned, and where "one more for me means one less for you". Capitalism says, "Let's make 'em cheap enough so that we all can have two or three, and there's no need to steal." It IS interesting to speculate, however, on what means of distribution of wealth might supplant our own system. [We leave out the obvious failures of the collectivist "system", which of course is merely a modern label for the ancient system of tyranny/feudalism. No way will they supplant us; they can't even hold together the miserable little cliques they now have. If we ever decide seriously to stop underpinning them, they would die altogether. The worst they could do is destroy us ; no way can they compete with us.] For instance--when there are fifty robots for every person, does each of us have "slaves"? Does Uncle Sam own all the robots, or does the UAW or GM? What happens? And also--when the SOD vaccine is available to everyone else and we all live to 120, will they push retirement age up to 95? Until the 21st century-- --arlan andrews/american bell/indy