[net.misc] Backwards Badges

tomoc (01/18/83)

Since the beginning of badge wearing, I`ve noticed something interesting.
I have yet to see a male with the front of his badge (the side with the
picture on it) facing hid body- i.e. you look at the badge and you can see
the person`s face.  HOWEVER, there are some females who wear their badges
so that you can`t see what their picture looks like.  Has this been
happening at other places besides IW???

Tom O`Connor
ixlpc!tomoc

mat (01/19/83)

The backwards badges are probably a violation of the rules that require that
they be worn, since you can't tell whether a person is BTL or ABI, or if
she/he is actually the owner of the badge!  Come on, all you vain types
who can't stand the sight of your own photograph, fall in line with
the rest of us.
					-M Terribile

wdr (01/19/83)

It is not just females whose badges face their body.
Some of the people, of either sex, whose badges you can't read dislike the
picture or don't want you to see the big "T" for Turkey that says the 
left their badge home today.  Others have attatched it with the clip pointing
down to a flexible portion of their clothing and it has twisted.

Men's badges do this less often because men often clip them to their jacket 
pockets, which are stiff enough to not twist, or hang them with the clip
pointing up from the necktie.

Women's clothing, as currently designed, does not support clip on badges as
well. 
                   Bill Ricker

bukys (01/19/83)

When badges were introduced to a hospital I once worked for, many
people objected to their identification number (which happened to be
their social security number) being displayed so prominently.  Some
wore their badges backwards, some taped across the number.  I believe
that the administration was convinced (perhaps with threats of legal
action) to omit the numbers in the future.  Also, I imagine some people
didn't like their names being available to anyone walking by in such a
public place.

paulh (01/19/83)

Jacket pocket ????  Necktie ?????!!?  How barbaric !   :-)

Paul Hoefling
comfortable at Tektronix

leichter (01/19/83)

At DEC, badges don't have pictures on them.  They do, however, have your name
and badge (i.e. id) number.

Ken Olson, founder & president of DEC, has been asked more than once why DEC
badges don't have pictures.  His answer goes something like this:  "Every badge
I've ever seen with a picture on it requires that your name be written in very
small print to fit.  If I bump into you in the hallway and begin talking - I
already know what you look like..."

								-- Jerry
						devax!yale-comix!leichter

(Also DEC badge 71848...)

mmt (01/20/83)

In this establishment people are expected to wear photobadges.
One person years ago substituted the picture of a dog, and I
don't think it was ever questioned. This person was male.

toddv (01/21/83)

I worked at McDonnell Doglas where picture badges were required to enter
any building (a co-worker once left for lunch without his and we had to 
bring it to the door before he could get in).

The women consistently turned their badges around backwards.
I asked several why they did this, it was no accident of twisting clothing.
Rather, they didn't like their picture.

At Tektronix, the food service personnell (not Tek employees) once switched
their non-picture badges to confuse the Tek people about their names.  (I KNEW
their correct names) Hence the need for pictures.

To the Tek person belittling those that wear ties:
I wear a tie (most days) and sometimes a coat at Tektronix.  So there!
Nurds like me exist even in YOUR company!
Although admittedly an old running shirt and worn out blue jeans are
very acceptable...   I'm comfortable in either.  

berry (01/22/83)

#R:ixlpc:-21400:zinfandel:8200010:000:132
zinfandel!berry    Jan 20 09:27:00 1983

Badges?  We don' need no stinkin' badges!!!

	Berry Kercheval
	Zehntel Inc.
	(decvax!sytek!zehntel!zinfandel!berry)
	(415)932-6900

dag (01/24/83)

Curious about DEC badges...  Some of the badges have the corner-marks
for positioning pictures, but none have personal pictures (Mine has a
drawing of the Maynard Mill clocktower...  )
						Daniel Glasser
						...!decvax!sultan!dag

coletti (01/26/83)

#R:ixlpc:-21400:uiucdcs:10600031:000:677
uiucdcs!coletti    Jan 25 15:46:00 1983

    At NASA/Ames research center almost everyone wore their badges
clipped to their pockets, facing inwards, with the actual badge inside
the pocket.  The only ones who consistently made a point of wearing
them correctly were the new high school and college slaves who wanted to
impress themselves and their friends.  Perhaps everyone else felt that it
violated their body space or something.

    Every now and then the Marine guards (who wore their badges) would
happen upon us, and tell us to wear them.

    The only time a person HAD to wear it was in restricted areas,
and that ended the fun (maybe that's why they weren't worn elsewhere?).


			- a former college slave

mcewan (01/26/83)

#R:ixlpc:-21400:uiucdcs:10600034:000:534
uiucdcs!mcewan    Jan 26 14:21:00 1983

     At IBM Research, it was quite accepted (encouraged) NOT to wear the
dog tags, but to leave the silly things in your wallet.
In fact the student "workers" (as in drones) got badges with BLANK pictures
and a big temporary (individualized to the level of your ID number on it).
So much for security.

    In the divisions (i.e. eastern front) everybody had to wear the
doggie tags including the students (they got pictures (big thrill)), however.

          				Montoye
					(pur-ee!uiucdcs!montoye)
					ignore the return address.

hal (01/28/83)

I used to work at a company where we were required to wear badges with
pictures on them.  A female friend of mine always wore her's tucked under
a collar, or turned around, or hidden by her (longish) hair.  I once asked
her why, and she said she was tired of bozos on the shop floor reading her
name off the badge and then acting like they were on a first name basis,
asking her out or making comments on her social life.  This was before
sexual harasment (sp?) was recognized as an official problem, and there
wasn't really any way to stop the problem, so hiding the badge was the
most reasonable way to deal with the situation.

Hal Perkins

russ (02/03/83)

#R:ixlpc:-21400:kirk:22600001:000:536
kirk!russ    Jan 26 11:58:00 1983

I was at the 1980 Winter Olympics, and we had to wear badges slung
from a chain around your neck.  The ID had your photo on it, and was
color coded.  Green was the lowest (what I had), and White was the best
(IOC members).  In addition, the badge was supposedly chemically coded.

Also, you need a SECRET clearance to get a badge for GE's ELAB in Syracuse,
New York.  The badge has your picture on it and a clip to hang on your
pocket.  Of course, you can just walk right into the place, but you
need a SECRET clearance to get a badge.